So annoyed at my parents

[TheBeesKnee]

Yesterday was orthodox Christmas Eve and DP and I visited parents for dinner.

After 30 mins ish it was revealed that my DF's colleagues had Covid but he was testing negative.

We decided to stay for dinner as at that point we had obviously been exposed.

DF has just text me to say that he tested positive this morning.

I am so bloody annoyed at the pair of them. They obviously didn't mention this as they didn't want to miss Christmas again but that's no excuse really. I've had Covid twice and the second time was via my parents, I'm pretty sure.

I haven't had my booster yet, although DP is triple jabbed.

Just a rant as there's nothing to be done at this point.

My lack of ‘risk assessment capacity’? Yes if you want me to sit outside a pub in January! It’s not last year....

And to spend £1k on tests to meet up with family.

I’m not sure it’s my risk assessment that’s off here....

I’ve had Covid. I was fatigued for a week. Now I have lots of lovely antibodies so actually am less likely to kill anyone if I decide to sit inside a pub.

I think we’re beyond accusing people that are getting on with their lives as ‘killing people’.

@BambinaJAS you are going to get Covid at some point . And so are your family. It will be around for the rest of your life. It’s probably time to get your head around that and stop ranting at people on these threads. Or are you going to spend £1k every time you meet up with family? Never go inside a pub again? What a life!

Bambina

Such ridiculous OTT attitude - all those restrictions so avoid a mild illness. Pre vaccines, i kind of get it but not you (and OP) just sound deranged.

OP you’ve had Covid twice. You’re unlikely to get it again right now. I think it’s sad that your first thought is to be furious at your parents for the very slim chance that they’ve given you a mild illness (which if you’ve had it twice and are vaccinated it most likely will be) rather than concern for them. Who are elderly and more likely to have a serious illness.

Shocking how this pandemic has made us think.

Mild illness or not. It means op has to stay isolated for a week, therefore curtailing other activities.
So I'd be annoyed at df not at least letting me know BEFORE I stepped foot in his house, not after, so I could make an informed choice.

And what's with this term 'deranged' being used to insult others views on this thread?? Is it the new "in" term to use to try and make others feel small? Just makes those using it look like they lack the intelligence for a proper debate.

We just visited a family member for a NY Day lunch who is CEV and all 20 of us visiting did a Pcr test the day before. Every single one of us sent proof when they got the results.

Did the family member ask for proof? That seems extremely OTT. Don't they trust the family?

*Agree that it was expensive, but there are ways around having to test by actively reducing your exposure to concentrated viral loads.g

1. Outside
2. Well ventilated
3. Restrict Group Size

Doing 1-3 massively reduces the risks of a serious infection.

But aren't always practical. We spent New Years Day with family. 3 was no problem but I could hardly expect an 86 and 92 year old to sit outside or have the French doors open!

@Delatron

My lack of ‘risk assessment capacity’? Yes if you want me to sit outside a pub in January! It’s not last year....

And to spend £1k on tests to meet up with family.

I’m not sure it’s my risk assessment that’s off here....

I’ve had Covid. I was fatigued for a week. Now I have lots of lovely antibodies so actually am less likely to kill anyone if I decide to sit inside a pub.

I think we’re beyond accusing people that are getting on with their lives as ‘killing people’.

@BambinaJAS you are going to get Covid at some point . And so are your family. It will be around for the rest of your life. It’s probably time to get your head around that and stop ranting at people on these threads. Or are you going to spend £1k every time you meet up with family? Never go inside a pub again? What a life!

Solution is straight-forward for me for a year or so:

Escape England for sunnier climates during winter for up to 5 months.

Return in Summer when weather is good in England and you can do stuff outside.

Thats my plan until the situation stabilises and the virus becomes truly endemic (projected to be around 2023/24).

My DD2 also avoids the problems that England currently has with nurseries. Have deferred her place till late 2023 for Pre-Prep.

The current advice is you don't isolate if you are a close contact now. Providing you are vaccinated and don't have symptoms. He didn't do anything wrong

Bambina, I thought your family had no idea of the practicalities of most people’s lives when you said 20 of you did private PCRs to meet up.

Then you say you plan to Escape England for sunnier climates during winter for up to 5 months.

😂😂😂

Not forgetting you are planning to defer your child’s nursery for a year. Again not everyone is a SAHM.

This reminds me of the first lockdown where MC people ‘hunkered down’ while poor people delivered things for them.

I'm confused, you visited your parents yesterday and now have tested positive yourselves today? Is it even possible to get a positive result literally hours after exposure? Genuine question! I thought it took a 2-3 days to incubate?

@TheDuchessOfBeddington

Bambina, I thought your family had no idea of the practicalities of most people’s lives when you said 20 of you did private PCRs to meet up.

Then you say you plan to Escape England for sunnier climates during winter for up to 5 months.

😂😂😂

The slice of people that can now do that in the UK is not small.

WFH + EU/UK Passports = 100% possible

You just cannot go over 183 days abroad.

If our DD2 was vaccinated it would be a different matter.

But she isn't, and until Pfizer brings online the 3 shot process for the 2 to 5 year olds (likely 2nd half 2022), we are going to make sure she is not part of the English experiment currently being run in schools were they force everybody together and let the virus rip through them.

Just wait until the lawsuits come out of that. Which they will once parents have to deal with seriously ill children (long term).

Good luck to any parents suing the government over en endemic virus. (Which is mainly mild for kids). They will all get it at some point and build up some good immunity like they do other viruses. Then when they get older it won’t be an issue to them.

My DS had zero symptoms.

Your df's colleague had covid but was testing negative?
He didn't have Covid then did he? So why would your dp's have cancelled?

Your parents have done nothing wrong, your reaction is totally OTT.

Covid is very mild now for the vast majority of people - and it's here to stay.

You could just as easily pick it up anywhere else you go and as over a third of people are asymptomatic there are people everywhere with it who won't be isolating. Plus all the people who know they have it and don't isolate (and just don't talk about it).
Practically everyone I know has a family member or friend they've been in contact with who has it. Are half of the population supposed to isolate bc of this? What do you think would happen?

You need to use your brain. (This sounds totally made up anyway btw)

Just wait until the lawsuits come out of that. Which they will once parents have to deal with seriously ill children (long term).
The vast majority of school aged children had already had Covid even before Omicron according to all Govt / ONS statistics, so when are these lawsuits supposedly starting? The majority of children had had Covid even before Summer 2021.

I hope you and your parents don’t feel too ill Op. I personally wouldn’t be annoyed. I thought we’d moved on from pointing fingers and trying to ascertain who it was we can blame..

But reading that the solution is obvious and that we should all just leave the U.K. for winter is pretty much the best thing I’ve ever read on MN and will keep me for a long time, so that’s good.

"Just wait until the lawsuits come out of that. Which they will once parents have to deal with seriously ill children (long term)"

The only people who will make money out of this are the lawyers. There's no way a case would succeed

@GiveMeNovocain

"Just wait until the lawsuits come out of that. Which they will once parents have to deal with seriously ill children (long term)"

The only people who will make money out of this are the lawyers. There's no way a case would succeed

Plenty of bad decisions have been made in the public realm when it comes to education. These can be examined, dissected, and are very much subject to judicial review.

It's easy for parents to pooh pooh things when their own children got infected and recovered.

Its not so easy when the child got infected and developed a long term health problem.

Funding long term healthcare for children = £££

That penny is going to drop in England. Other countries were much more careful anf pro-active when children were involved (with good reason).

The costs of even a 1% increase in morbidity (UK wide) are immense due to the extra healthcare load long-term.

This virus isn’t going away. It’s now endemic within our population.

I think a large portion of the population have Stockholm syndrome. Looking to the authorities to “save” them with more rules/testing etc. The testing isn’t actually stopping the virus. It’s just delaying what’s to come. It’s mot going to be sustainable to keep dishing out free tests- they’re not free. We are all going to have to pay for them at some point through increased taxes or something. The money doesn’t just magically come out of nowhere for those and cost of living is already squeezed.

We’ve forgotten how to take reasonable precautions and many are living half a life, in fear of the dreaded infection.

If we’ve had our vaccines and booster then maybe it’s time to return to a more normal way of life now.

@Whattochoosenow

This virus isn’t going away. It’s now endemic within our population.

I think a large portion of the population have Stockholm syndrome. Looking to the authorities to “save” them with more rules/testing etc. The testing isn’t actually stopping the virus. It’s just delaying what’s to come. It’s mot going to be sustainable to keep dishing out free tests- they’re not free. We are all going to have to pay for them at some point through increased taxes or something. The money doesn’t just magically come out of nowhere for those and cost of living is already squeezed.

We’ve forgotten how to take reasonable precautions and many are living half a life, in fear of the dreaded infection.

If we’ve had our vaccines and booster then maybe it’s time to return to a more normal way of life now.

Spain is doing much better than the UK in protecting children. Normal life has returned there, with schools open, and with only minimal restrictions (facemasks and group sizes).

Its England that is the outlier here.

We are the worst of the worst when it comes to children.

@thewhatsit

But reading that the solution is obvious and that we should all just leave the U.K. for winter is pretty much the best thing I’ve ever read on MN and will keep me for a long time, so that’s good.

Yes! This is the tea I come to MN for!

Let's pay £1000 in PCR tests each time we meet up and migrate to warmer climbs every winter! oh how the other half live hey! And I'm the deranged one

I hate that when someone gets covid they start throwing the blame cards around - you cannot control what other people do, you could potentially catch it anywhere, from anyone. The only persons actions you can control are your own, any chance you socialise with someone else you're risking it. Yes on this occasion your Dad had been a close contact and knew about it but there would also have been a chance that he could have been a close contact at some point and had no idea - you would still have caught it (just had no one to blame)

@Wellbythebloodyhell

Let's pay £1000 in PCR tests each time we meet up and migrate to warmer climbs every winter! oh how the other half live hey! And I'm the deranged one

Cost of testing is the problem in the UK.

As usual...you are being fleeced by people connected (and even in business) with Tory politicians/members.

Even in Iceland (one of the most expensive countries in the world) Pcr tests can be done for €50 with results in 8hrs.

Life in the UK could be a lot better right now if wr had competent leadership in Government.

And thats the problem: we don't.

And the rot sets in from the top down.

@BambinaJAS I'm sorry but I can't agree with what you say about Spain protecting children . This was the country where children were effectively imprisoned within their homes in March/ April 2020. Where even young children are having to mask up all day in school - and for outdoor play too!

OP hasn’t actually tested positive for all those wishing her better.

Her father has. And she’s worried that she will get it (after being double vaccinated and having Covid twice). And she’s ‘furious with the both of them’ I.e both her parents. It’s unclear what her mother has done in all this. And OP hasn’t even got Covid.