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First footballers…

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RenGreen · 05/01/2022 09:03

Now tennis players…

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-59876203

Why are they not getting vaccinated? I imagine it’s because they see themselves at low risk of infection but I have a friend, a young mum and she’s also my neighbour. So fit and pre vaccination in May 2020 got covid and now has the worst long covid, even now she can’t leave the house for long as unable to walk for long. I believe her fitness saved her after getting covid, she only wishes the vaccine existed then. You just don’t know how covid will ‘get’ you.

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LumosSolem · 05/01/2022 10:28

@Tana433 you know what, no one should be forced to get a vaccine, I absolutely believe in bodily autonomy. But if it weren't for vaccines I dread to think about what life would still be like- the vaccination programme has saved many lives and has also meant that we have been able to live again. I don't want to see another restriction and I certainly won't follow anymore because some people are too stupid to accurately assess risk.

All the anti-vaxx crowd are happy for the rest of us to take the 'risk' and then enjoy life going back to normal. I'm getting really tired now of people who are too thick to accept that actually, they are still at more risk from covid than a vaccine. Again, I believe in bodily autonomy- but that doesn't mean it should be without consequences. Don't get the vaccine- don't expect to be able to carry on as normal.

It was clear from the briefing yesterday, as it has been many times before- most hospitalisations are amongst the unvaccinated. The rest of us shouldn't have to suffer more restrictions because of the pressure they are putting on the NHS and Djokovic shouldn't get special exemptions. Perhaps he has a genuine medical reason but I think his previous comments suggest more that he just doesn't want to get the vaccine.

He is a twat and I hope Aussies show him what they think. He whinges on court when he isn't as popular as his opponent with the crowd anyway so should be amusing to watch at least.

howdiditcometothis666 · 05/01/2022 10:29

There are a lot of athletes who can't get the vaccine in their own countries because you lot are gobbling them all up and Pfizer are happy to keep supplying the rich countries whilst allowing Covax to fail.
Which is why it will be highly unlikely Commonwealth athletes will be required to be vaccinated for the Games in Birmingham this year
Are you all going to demand they don't get special treatment as you queue up for your 4th jag whilst the vulnerable die in their country ?

Sporting events really highlight the hypocrisy going on at a world level.

PurpleDaisies · 05/01/2022 10:37

There’s no suggestion that Djokovic is unable to get vaccinated. He just doesn’t want to
Of course athletes without access to vaccines shouldn’t be penalised for that.

Vaccine inequity worldwide is a massive issue. It is not relevant in the slightest to this case.

Notonthestairs · 05/01/2022 10:38

The question is whether he has been treated more leniently than a lower ranked player.

GiveMeMyKeys · 05/01/2022 10:44

@merrymouse do you have a link for the comparison of risks of long covid v vaccination? I haven't heard that.

Crowdfundingforcake · 05/01/2022 10:46

@NearlyAlwaysInsane

Idiotic rules. Vaccination status should not be a barrier to playing sports. End of.

Vaccination status isn't stopping him playing his sport. It should be stopping him flouting the rules of the country he's travelling to.

Ecosaurus · 05/01/2022 10:50

Having covid before does not mean you don't get it again - and some countries are quite strict on imposing time limits on when this method expires.

Morrison has said that he will be treated the same as everyone else, and on the first plane out if not actually exempt - so let's see how that plays out.

merrymouse · 05/01/2022 10:50

[quote Tana433]@merrymouse You have absolutely no proof that he has a higher risk of long covid than effects from the vaccine. No-one knows how either will affect us which is why we weigh up the pros and cons and make a decision about our own bodies for ourselves. Nobody else's choice to make.[/quote]
The evidence is the number of people suffering from long Covid vs. number of people who have experienced serious side effects from vaccination.

merrymouse · 05/01/2022 10:51

Vaccination status isn't stopping him playing his sport. It should be stopping him flouting the rules of the country he's travelling to.

Agree.

Blubells · 05/01/2022 10:53

I couldn't care less if he gets the vaccine or not.

But he shouldn't get preferential treatment when travelling. We should all get the same treatment.

PuggyMum · 05/01/2022 10:56

How on Earth is he an anti vax lunatic though? He's refused to disclose his status (and I agree that probably means he hasn't had the vax) but where does the lunatic bit come from?
I'm glad he's taken this stance. It certainly is another example of one rule for them and one for the rest of us.

PurpleDaisies · 05/01/2022 11:00

You might want to read some of the things he’s posted online @PuggyMum. He’s got a long history of rejecting conventional medicine.

merrymouse · 05/01/2022 11:00

[quote GiveMeMyKeys]@merrymouse do you have a link for the comparison of risks of long covid v vaccination? I haven't heard that.[/quote]
www.gov.uk/government/news/new-research-shows-2-million-people-may-have-had-long-covid

There is little evidence of people experiencing long term side effects from vaccination, although in countries like the U.K. far more people have been vaccinated.

Also

www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/27/blood-clot-risk-greater-after-covid-infection-than-after-vaccination

JasmineGarden · 05/01/2022 11:01

@Tana433

Honestly there are so many judgey people on MN (not sure why im surprised) Instead of slating a perfectly fit and healthy player who has decided to stay that way, why dont you instead challenge the ridiculous rules that someone has to prove their vaccination status in order to play a game of tennis. Djokovic has obviously found a way around it and has been allowed to continue. Good luck to him. If you dont like it, dont watch but it really has zero effect on the outcome.

Instead of slating a perfectly fit and healthy player who has decided to stay that way

More anti vax nonsense!!

Bookmarket · 05/01/2022 11:02

DD is required to wear a mask at uni in lectures. Her cohort all comply. They share a lecture with sports science students - majority male. Barely any compliance. I think it is driven by arrogance.

luckylavender · 05/01/2022 11:03

@Tana433

You think it's ok that a man who has been openly anti vax and ran a tournament where COVID spread, has bent the rules so that he can play in a tournament in a city which has had one of the world's longest lockdowns? Ok.

merrymouse · 05/01/2022 11:04

All the anti-vaxx crowd are happy for the rest of us to take the 'risk' and then enjoy life going back to normal.

Agree. Without substantial vaccination in the countries that have had the huge privilege of being able to role out comprehensive vaccination programs, international sport would not be carrying on as normal.

JasmineGarden · 05/01/2022 11:05

@Notonthestairs

The question is whether he has been treated more leniently than a lower ranked player.

Apparently all the requests for exemption go in to the board anonymously & it's decided upon things like 'recent covid' etc.

Not sure if I believe it or not, but they seemed pretty genuine.

luckylavender · 05/01/2022 11:06

@ILookAtTheFloor

I really can't get worked up about this:

We know 2 jabs doesn't prevent transmission and you can still have and spread Covid.

The reasons for his exemption are his private business and hasn't it gone through two independent panels to decide?

He's had covid before, clearly doesn't have long covid and it's none of anyone's business if he doesn't want to be vaccinated - it's not like he's 80 yo/compromised immune system/likely to be taking up a hospital bed if he catches it again.

And I say this as a pro vaxx person who has had all jabs and a booster.

Maybe he should keep his anti vax views private too then. I suspect this won't end well for him.

luckylavender · 05/01/2022 11:07

@PuggyMum

How on Earth is he an anti vax lunatic though? He's refused to disclose his status (and I agree that probably means he hasn't had the vax) but where does the lunatic bit come from? I'm glad he's taken this stance. It certainly is another example of one rule for them and one for the rest of us.

He has a long history that you're probably unaware of

Notonthestairs · 05/01/2022 11:11

@JasmineGarden I didn't know that, thank you. I suspect they will be under a lot of pressure to confirm this.

His behaviour is judged in the context of the Adria Tour.

FrownedUpon · 05/01/2022 11:20

Djokovic is a twat. Hopefully he’ll be sent back home, as soon as he arrives in Oz.

Crowdfundingforcake · 05/01/2022 11:33

I hope the Melbourne crowd, famous for their decorum and quiet, low key response will show him exactly what they think.

MrsWhites · 05/01/2022 11:58

It’s irrelevant that he is a high profile tennis player, there will always be high profile people who refuse to get vaccinated, it’s that double standards that is the issue, the idea that his medical exemption won’t be questioned because of who he is. I hear the Australian government say they will turn him around if they aren’t satisfied with his exemption and rightly so. He isn’t above the rest of us.

I don’t think it’s fair to drag footballers into this, latest figures suggest that more then 80% of them are fully vaccinated and many high profile managers have spoken out about those who refuse to be vaccinated but as is the same in many industries, it isn’t mandatory so what can bosses do?

ExcaliburBaby · 05/01/2022 13:00

I think there will be a massive backlash against him.

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