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To be horrified at kids being 'labelled' like this ?

387 replies

espressotogo · 04/01/2022 10:55

DD senior school age goes back tomorrow - no exemptions and she will be masked up as requested despite my absolute disgust at the policy. The school has asserted that children with exemptions will need to provide proof and will be made to wear a badge or lanyard to show their exemption on school property and transport.
AIBU to be horrified that children will be 'badged' like this - surely not wearing the mask is sufficient to show their exemption for a policy that is advisory and with zero proof of efficacy ?

OP posts:
noblegiraffe · 04/01/2022 12:24

WHY ARE YOU IGNORING THE REQUESTED EVIDENCE?

MiniatureHotdog · 04/01/2022 12:24

But then I am in the "over it" stage of covid Grin We all need to live with it, yes it will go through schools, but students and tecahers have had the option of vaccines. I see the US have dropped isolation for asymptomatic cases to 5 days, I'd expect once this winter wave is over we'll go the same way, and then drop isolating altogether unless you're symptomatic.

motherrunner · 04/01/2022 12:25

I know the pupils in my classes are exempt but I see hundreds on the school ground.

I have to challenge non mask wearers when I’m on duty. It would make it easier if they wore something to say they were exempt. I do not know every child in my 1250 school.

Iggly · 04/01/2022 12:25

@espressotogo

This is on the government website:

Must be true then !

Why not Google “evidence of face masks against transmission of covid”?

Try it.

And click and read the links that both go for and against your inner prejudices.

It’s very uncomfortable reading things which may counter your beliefs (and I call them beliefs), I get that.

But do it. Try and challenge yourself.

BendicksBittermints4Breakfast · 04/01/2022 12:25

@espressotogo

DD senior school age goes back tomorrow - no exemptions and she will be masked up as requested despite my absolute disgust at the policy. The school has asserted that children with exemptions will need to provide proof and will be made to wear a badge or lanyard to show their exemption on school property and transport. AIBU to be horrified that children will be 'badged' like this - surely not wearing the mask is sufficient to show their exemption for a policy that is advisory and with zero proof of efficacy ?
Can one assume that if 'DD' becomes a prefect or even Head Girl she, and you, would be pleased for her to wear a badge. My personal opinion regarding exemptiions is that any exemption should be medically certified, not simply 'I don't like wearing one' and that the person should be able to prove it when necessary, not Joe/Joanna Public on the street but before entering supermarkets etc. We all know the level of abuse of the 'exemption' claim.
noblegiraffe · 04/01/2022 12:26

But then I am in the "over it" stage of covid

Are you over being able to get your bins collected, see a doctor, catch a train, phone for an ambulance?

Seems a bit premature to be 'over it'.

Iggly · 04/01/2022 12:26

@noblegiraffe

WHY ARE YOU IGNORING THE REQUESTED EVIDENCE?
Because it’s more comforting to remain ignorant?

Nobody likes to be proven wrong 🤷🏻‍♀️

ABCDEF1234 · 04/01/2022 12:27

This just sounds like a poster who doesn't want their child to wear a mask and will spout any rubbish to make it 'justifiable'.
I'm going to hazard a guess they are also anti vaccine, anti covid, anti lockdown...

ancientgran · 04/01/2022 12:27

@dilly123

It is only guidance not mandatory.. the school cannot force mask wearing.. luckily my DS is at primary school but I totally agree with you & he would not be wearing a mask if at secondary school!
Well maybe he wouldn't be at school then. If kids don't follow the rules they should be excluded. I have teenage GS living with me and a vulnerable, disabled, 75 year old husband. Any reduction in the risk of GS bringing covid home is worth it as far as I'm concerned.
Iggly · 04/01/2022 12:28

@ABCDEF1234

This just sounds like a poster who doesn't want their child to wear a mask and will spout any rubbish to make it 'justifiable'. I'm going to hazard a guess they are also anti vaccine, anti covid, anti lockdown...
Anti covid 😂

I wish sticking my fingers in my ears made it all go away.

Ireallycantthinkofagoodone · 04/01/2022 12:28

I can’t see an issue of a child wearing a lanyard if they are exempt from wearing a mask, tbh.
Surely, they are already ‘labelled’ if they don’t have a mask on anyway? We should be doing all we can to avoid schools closing again, and if it makes life easier for school staff to monitor their pupils, then I am in favour.

NewYearNewMeFeckthatshit · 04/01/2022 12:28

@espressotogo

What a pathetic OP. Typical of the saddo right wing factions.

In Ireland, primary kids over 10 have been wearing face masks in schools all day since the start of this academic year and they’ve just got on with it, without all this ‘my child is far too precious’ bollocks.

Kids over 12yrs also had the Covid jabs from the end of the summer.

Stop whining and just get on with it!

Sleepyblueocean · 04/01/2022 12:28

I think wearing a lanyard is on balance going to cause less difficulties for exempt children than being asked to show notes all the time.

noblegiraffe · 04/01/2022 12:28

I'm going to hazard a guess they are also anti vaccine, anti covid, anti lockdown

More likely 'pro covid'.

Like the idiots with articles in the paper saying they're envious of their friends who have caught it while they haven't yet.

ancientgran · 04/01/2022 12:29

@CovidForChristmas

There was a parent on here just yesterday proudly announcing that she has told the school her DC are exempt from wearing masks, when in reality it’s just a preference. I’m glad schools will be asking for evidence. Mostly because it’s not fair on all the pupils who would prefer not to but do anyway. But also because even if there is a small chance that doing so will help protect the other students and teachers, then I think it’s worth enforcing.
Agree with you totally.
skyeisthelimit · 04/01/2022 12:30

DD's school gave her a sunflower lanyard and exemption card before Christmas and I am glad because it stops every teacher demanding that she put a mask on. I also had to get a letter from the doctor so that she could remove her tie on occasion (she has issues with breathing and chest pains due to anaemia).

She does not want to have to keep explaining her medical condition to teachers and in front of other pupils, so is very happy to have the lanyard now.

She doesn't see it as labelling, she sees it as common sense that helps both pupils and teachers to know who genuinely can't wear a mask for health reasons.

ancientgran · 04/01/2022 12:30

@noblegiraffe

I'm going to hazard a guess they are also anti vaccine, anti covid, anti lockdown

More likely 'pro covid'.

Like the idiots with articles in the paper saying they're envious of their friends who have caught it while they haven't yet.

Wow that is a whole new level of madness.
Iggly · 04/01/2022 12:31

@noblegiraffe

I'm going to hazard a guess they are also anti vaccine, anti covid, anti lockdown

More likely 'pro covid'.

Like the idiots with articles in the paper saying they're envious of their friends who have caught it while they haven't yet.

I’ve also heard of people having covid parties for their kids FFS
mumshouse · 04/01/2022 12:31

Presumably it's to allow the school staff to focus on things like teaching? Instead of asking someone all day if they've forgotten their mask they can see at a glance that they got permission not to wear one.

I'm perfectly fine with you being horrified as long as you don't expect the school to hear all about it.

pointythings · 04/01/2022 12:32

@espressotogo

This is on the government website:

Must be true then !

You've had reams of evidence thrown at you. You just don't want to believe it.
BendicksBittermints4Breakfast · 04/01/2022 12:32

@Iggly

There is plenty of evidence to suggest that mask wearing is harmful to the education of children

I’ve heard it all now.

May I refer you to Daryl Huff's The Use and Abuse of Statistics in which he says, to paraphrase, Tell me what you want to prove and I'll find the statistics to prove it. The pandemic has shown how this works, you can 'prove' what you want to prove by selective use of the numbers and by only collecting convenient numbers.
CaptainMyCaptain · 04/01/2022 12:32

@flumposie

It will be so teachers aren't constantly asking them to wear a mask/ why aren't they wearing one. Nothing sinister at all.
This. By not wearing a mask they are 'labelling' themselves anyway.
noblegiraffe · 04/01/2022 12:32

This sort of thing.

To be horrified at kids being 'labelled' like this ?
runningfromtheoutlaws · 04/01/2022 12:32

Theres nothing wrong with it. I want schools open.

Jarbed · 04/01/2022 12:33

@noblegiraffe

'Disgusted', 'horrified'....

Are you about to declare it a 'war on children' too?

Stupidly emotive language quite popular among certain groups.

Exactly this. Why is exempt children being asked to wear a badge "horrifying", OP? I don't get it. And why are you "concerned about them"?