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Get rid of all restrictions

528 replies

AnEpisodeOfEastenders · 29/12/2021 12:22

I think it's time for all restrictions to be removed. There has been plenty of time for people to be vaccinated / boosted that want to, those that can't or don't should take their own precautions.

If we test positive then we shouldn't need to isolate, shouldn't need to declare it and should just treat it as a normal cough / cold / illness. If you feel up to going to work, out to the pub, seeing friends or family then do so. Everyone I know who have had it say they feel fine.

Life has been disrupted for far too long, the costs associated are astronomical and will be a crippling debt for generations to come.

OP posts:
cantkeepawayforever · 29/12/2021 21:42

@FourTeaFallOut

Look, I'm telling you all from my island, where the people around me make you lot look like plagued muppets, that I am going to be absolutely fine. As you were.
You see, that really doesn't reduce the geographical area of where you might be very much at all.....

I like 'plagued muppets'. I shall mutter it under my breath as I return to work next week.

MarshaBradyo · 29/12/2021 21:44

There are a few states that have zero Covid all this time and now see first rise in omicron and will be dealing with numbers like everyone else

Interested to know where is ok and not about to have same impact in rising numbers

They can list other countries if worried about privacy concerns due to mentioning one country or whatever the issue is.

IcedPurple · 29/12/2021 21:44

@CallmeHendricks

It was relevant to the point they were making about the current situation in the UK being such a shit-show that they had removed their family from it for the time being.
And as such, it would be relevant to know where it is, given the speed at which Omnicron is spreading around the world.

The poster went out of her way to tell us in some detail about all the restrictions she imposes on herself, including not using public transport, so it would be interesting to know about this wonderfully 'safe' country which would be worth the risk of flying to during winter in a pandemic.

the80sweregreat · 29/12/2021 21:44

BambinaJAS was on another thread earlier on this week and they very negative about what might happen in the new year with regards to this new variant and they said they were going to visit relatives abroad for Christmas.
The thread was pulled soon after.
I hope that things don't go that downhill next year and the figures do drop off a cliff.
I know lots of people with this and it's mild , but your still poorly and not able to work for a while. It still makes you feel rubbish , but most people can manage it at home for a few days. Let's hope things don't go very badly next year , but who knows?
Time will tell.

jgw1 · 29/12/2021 21:45

*I’m sure people do when it’s a country which seemingly won’t be affected by omicron

Easy to allude rather than be specific.*

I just wish I was as clever as this poster who has flown away to avoid the pandemic.
Now if we had all flown to countries that had very low rates then the pandemic wouldn't exist.

MarshaBradyo · 29/12/2021 21:46

@jgw1

*I’m sure people do when it’s a country which seemingly won’t be affected by omicron

Easy to allude rather than be specific.*

I just wish I was as clever as this poster who has flown away to avoid the pandemic.
Now if we had all flown to countries that had very low rates then the pandemic wouldn't exist.

Ah yes but still China got that right initially ;
IcedPurple · 29/12/2021 21:48

Scotland and Wales have sane leadership. They make decisions and convey them with proper messaging.

And yet their rates are no better than England's.

I refuse to sugar coat this simply to soothe your likely nationalistic views.

You know what they say about opinions. They're like a certain part of the anatomy. We all have them.

As for my 'likely nationalistic views', how do you know where I come from?

Bizawit · 29/12/2021 21:52

@jumpbounce

Just because everyone you know who has had it has been fine we should end all restrictions? My friend under 30, no underlying health conditions and double vaccinated, caught covid end of November seemingly mild for about 5 days then took a downturn ended up ventilated in ICU and only got out of hospital a couple of days before Christmas and is still recovering. Yes she is recovering which is positive but this is just one person out of the small number of people I know....how many others around the country are being impacted by it in the same way? As things go she had the same views as you, was so over it, it's only only cold, shouldn't have restrictions etc. I can assure you a dose of covid has changed her mind.
That’s unfortunate for your friend- she got very unlucky. However, no amount of restrictions will eradicate this virus or prevent cases like this from occurring. Thankfully they are rare. Best we can do is get on with life and enjoy our health while we have it.
MaxNormal · 29/12/2021 21:54

Scotland and Wales have sane leadership. They make decisions and convey them with proper messaging

Oh good lord no we don't! Sturgeon's plan is just to make our lives somewhat more miserable than England to show she's "better than Boris" in between begging Westminster for more money. When none is forthcoming she just shafts businesses anyway.
Despite all this, rates are no better.

MarshaBradyo · 29/12/2021 21:56

@MaxNormal

Scotland and Wales have sane leadership. They make decisions and convey them with proper messaging

Oh good lord no we don't! Sturgeon's plan is just to make our lives somewhat more miserable than England to show she's "better than Boris" in between begging Westminster for more money. When none is forthcoming she just shafts businesses anyway.
Despite all this, rates are no better.

People get so pleased about restrictions they can’t see the reality of it.
CallmeHendricks · 29/12/2021 21:56

"Best we can do is get on with life and enjoy our health while we have it."

And the most likely way of that happening is to implement the few restrictions that are available to us right now that don't cause TOO much disruption to everyday lives and the economy.

Bovrilly · 29/12/2021 21:59

And yet their rates are no better than England's.

Their rates are better, Scotland in particular. England's infection rate is 1.5x that of Scotland.

Madhairday · 29/12/2021 22:00

@Hotcoffee10

Not RTFT but OP wanted to say totally agree - get rid of all restrictions now. Only test if alters medical management. Make vaccination truly a choice like flu vaccine. Then we can be a normal society again instead of this messed up place we are in.
But why do you think we would suddenly be back to normal if we just took away all restrictions, testing, isolation etc? What would happen in that process to take us back to 'normal'? What would happen to the hundreds of thousands of cases and thousands of hospital admissions, which would then climb steeply with the lack of isolation? What would happen in hospitals, with covid positive staff passing it to vulnerable patients, to people with cancer, heart disease, lung disease? How would any of these things be normal at all? They would spill out into the rest of society with far reaching effects socially and economically as well as in terms of public health. I just don't understand - it is baffling!

Seems to me that those who want to crack on and get back to normal are the real lovers of lockdown, as they are the ones who will ensure it happening.

As a CEV person, by the way, some of this thread is damn offensive. But I've known since the start of this thing that people like me are seen as in the way and less worth of a 'life worth living.'

MaxNormal · 29/12/2021 22:03

Their rates are better, Scotland in particular

Are you sure? Scotland's current case positivity rate is almost 30%.

Bovrilly · 29/12/2021 22:06

@MaxNormal

Their rates are better, Scotland in particular

Are you sure? Scotland's current case positivity rate is almost 30%.

Just going by ONS figures on 24 Dec which have England at 1 in 45 and Scotland at 1 in 70.
Northsoutheastwest76 · 29/12/2021 22:06

Scotland is better per 100K throughout pandemic.

Get rid of all restrictions
Covidworries · 29/12/2021 22:07

@MaybeHeIsMyCat
Appologies if already said but in order to get the antivirals they need a positive pcr and it has 5o be within a timeframe of symptoms starting positive test date. The current issues are the difficulty getting pcrs and the wait for results in some areas. I already know of one cev adult who will likely be poo late to acess this

southeastdweller · 29/12/2021 22:08

Seems to me that those who want to crack on and get back to normal are the real lovers of lockdown, as they are the ones who will ensure it happening.

No, you're wrong, because the tory government know we can't afford this, and so it won't happen again. The only people who want lockdown to continue are those lacking in empathy, comfortably off, kids are grown up, and work (or their partners do) in 'safe' WFH jobs.

MaybeHeIsMyCat · 29/12/2021 22:08

[quote Covidworries]@MaybeHeIsMyCat
Appologies if already said but in order to get the antivirals they need a positive pcr and it has 5o be within a timeframe of symptoms starting positive test date. The current issues are the difficulty getting pcrs and the wait for results in some areas. I already know of one cev adult who will likely be poo late to acess this[/quote]
Yep. I haven't even had the PCR test sent to keep at home yet, had to email my consultant today to see what I need to do

IcedPurple · 29/12/2021 22:08

@Northsoutheastwest76

Scotland is better per 100K throughout pandemic.
That graph suggests pretty marginal differences between the 4 devolved nations, with NI, interestingly, having the highest rates.
XenoBitch · 29/12/2021 22:08

At some point, there will be no isolation, or having to report a positive test, or even get test to start with.
When will this point be?

Bizawit · 29/12/2021 22:12

@BambinaJAS

183,000 cases today (Dec 29)

Are people seriously not understanding how bad this will get in the next 4 weeks?

We had 58,000 cases Dec 14

Thats from 58,000 to 183,000 in 2 weeks.

Why don’t we come back in 4 weeks and check in? Will be interested to see if the sky has indeed fallen in..
MissMaple82 · 29/12/2021 22:13

Abso-bloody-lutely

chantico · 29/12/2021 22:13

@southeastdweller

Seems to me that those who want to crack on and get back to normal are the real lovers of lockdown, as they are the ones who will ensure it happening.

No, you're wrong, because the tory government know we can't afford this, and so it won't happen again. The only people who want lockdown to continue are those lacking in empathy, comfortably off, kids are grown up, and work (or their partners do) in 'safe' WFH jobs.

We need to learn to live with the virus, which means learning which measures flatten and spread peaks

Just ignoring the virus really is the sure fire way to have uncontrolled peaks and all the dreadful consequences that follow from that.

It's not a case of 'loving lockdown' - it's looking at how to reduce the harm. Because it remains the case that with high transmission the societal harm is unconscionable

CiderWithLizzie · 29/12/2021 22:28

Omicron is in New Zealand now - it’s unstoppable unfortunately. Hopefully the boosters will be enough to flatten the curve …

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