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Major rant

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RoastedParsnips · 21/12/2021 15:17

I'm done.
Once again they're shutting the damn country (going off the Scotland news today) down for what? A cold for most people!
Yes a few people have died but less than ten with this new variant. What about all those with cancer who have died not being seen quick enough?

We cannot cope with another lockdown.
Taxes are through the fucking roof. Prices are through the roof in April fuel prices will be £2,000 a year!!! How is the average joe bloggs going to pay that?
How can we keep going when the government is destroying this country time and time again!
We've had our jabs. Yet they still insist on giving away billions we cannot afford to businesses who are STILL OPEN.
My mental health can't take it anymore, and there's no point directing me to MH services as they can't cope with the overwhelming pressures either!!
When does this shit end?!

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Fallagain · 21/12/2021 15:37

@RoastedParsnips

I'm done. Once again they're shutting the damn country (going off the Scotland news today) down for what? A cold for most people! Yes a few people have died but less than ten with this new variant. What about all those with cancer who have died not being seen quick enough?

We cannot cope with another lockdown.
Taxes are through the fucking roof. Prices are through the roof in April fuel prices will be £2,000 a year!!! How is the average joe bloggs going to pay that?
How can we keep going when the government is destroying this country time and time again!
We've had our jabs. Yet they still insist on giving away billions we cannot afford to businesses who are STILL OPEN.
My mental health can't take it anymore, and there's no point directing me to MH services as they can't cope with the overwhelming pressures either!!
When does this shit end?!

It takes a week for people to come ill enough to end up in hospital and then weeks to die or get better so that argument doesn’t work.

What about all those people with cancer who catch covid? What about all those people with cancer who can’t het cancer treatment because staff are treating people with covid or are isolating?

I know its shit but the situation can’t be made better by magic. There is no simple solution. The long term forecasts I’ve read suggest 5 years unpredictable pattern from covid followed by 5 years of predictability.

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RoastedParsnips · 21/12/2021 15:37

@Volterra

Whilst I absolutely get your frustration and agree the NHS has been underfunded for years, how can we immediately sort it even if lots of money was suddenly thrown at it?

I’m absolutely not wanting lockdown, just want to know how the NHS can be sorted to move us forward from where we are now?

Give those billions to the nhs. Yes I'm aware it takes years to train doctors and nurses, but it would help rather than giving it away to millionaire businesses it's just not fair. The government need to fund the NHS they've had two years to do this and they just.... don't.
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NeverDropYourMoonCup · 21/12/2021 15:39

@RoastedParsnips

I probably make no sense as I'm near the point of having a breakdown. I'm done with it. Why can't people use their common sense? If your sick, stay away from people. No need to shut the entire country down time and time again! SAGE aren't listening to other scientists. They are corrupt!
Common sense? Like not saying 'my kid has a fever and a hacking cough but I'm sure it's just a cold - why is my sister so annoyed that we've just come back from visiting grandma? Nobody complained when we were at the party for 20 kids yesterday', 'I'm not testing because we don't want to miss our Christmas activities' and other such fuckwittery?

People do not have common sense. Posts on MN prove this time and time again.

Volterra · 21/12/2021 15:42

I agree, it’s absolutely crap and absolutely should have been done but as you say it doesn’t help us now. I would really like to think sensible decisions would be made to go forward but don’t think they will.

I’m massively pissed off as my family Christmas dinner scheduled for tomorrow with my Dad and Stepmum is now minus my DD and her partner as their housemate has got covid. Hoping DD can get back for Christmas Day, she’s negative but after 3 hours sleep last night is cold, headachy with heavy legs. Really hoping it’s because she is due on, massive straw clutching going on currently.

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RoastedParsnips · 21/12/2021 15:42

But I have common sense. Sad So do others. It's not fair on us, we don't need to be a nanny state because people are idiots to put it politely.
I have next to nothing immune system and I've managed to keep myself alive all these years and it's devastating. My childrens mental health from missing school so much has even been effected. It's so devastating.
I just feel the government want to run this country into the ground and just be off at the next general election and get away with it just like Tony Blair did with the war. Was never prosecuted for war crimes. It's just terrible. I've really lost the plot haven't I?

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StrongSunglasses · 21/12/2021 15:45

Yanbu Wine

bordermidgebite · 21/12/2021 15:47

Oh I do agree about where money has and hasn't gone

So cross

MajesticallyAwkward · 21/12/2021 15:51

I'm with you @RoastedParsnips I've been ignoring the looming potential of lockdown but begrudgingly accepting it's on its way now.

I don't think it will be followed like the early ones were, so many people are fed up and at the end of their tether. We were told the lockdowns would fix it, then vaccines were the answer and now we've done all that and there's probably another lockdown with no end in sight, endless deceit, lies and half truths so we can't trust what we're told.

I'm sure even bojo knows there will be nowhere near the level of compliance again.

There is no quick answer to the nhs problems. Funding long term obviously but short term it's not going to improve to where it needs to be any time soon.

emmathedilemma · 21/12/2021 15:53

I don’t think you’re crazy, I think a lot of people feel the same way. Also worth remembering for those commenting from south of the border that Scotland has had stricter restrictions throughout all stages of this pandemic!

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 21/12/2021 15:56

@bordermidgebite

Oh I do agree about where money has and hasn't gone

So cross

Yes.
Iceskatequeen · 21/12/2021 15:59

I completely agree op.

The NHS needs to be more fucking resilient, instead of throwing millions on furlough the NHS should have been more prepared for these sorts of things, instead of it barely scraping by on a normal winter.

If need be then vaccine passports.

And before anyone says "you're only being asked to stay at home", go and fuck yourself.

These lockdowns are tuning peoples lives now.

Iceskatequeen · 21/12/2021 16:00

Ruining not tuning.

Idontlikeworms · 21/12/2021 16:10

So if we give the money to the NHS and not the hospitality sector to pay wages, then how are those people without a job in hospitality going to pay their £2k energy bills (that you mentioned in your original post)?? I am confused with reasoning.

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RoastedParsnips · 21/12/2021 16:25

@Idontlikeworms

So if we give the money to the NHS and not the hospitality sector to pay wages, then how are those people without a job in hospitality going to pay their £2k energy bills (that you mentioned in your original post)?? I am confused with reasoning.
They aren't closed though, they are still taking in money and still getting their shifts? Hmm
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SergeiL · 21/12/2021 16:26

I don’t disagree with the underfunding point but it is not a quick win.

Every single one of my Christmas plans have been cancelled due to Covid. It is shit. I don’t disagree with that either.

There is no quick solution here. But reading all this angry stuff online about lockdowns I don’t believe helps at all. I think all this anti lockdown, anti vaccine propaganda is having a significant negative impact on mental health.

DancerPrancerDonnerBlitzen · 21/12/2021 16:31

But...if the pubs go under because nobody is going to them, the country will be a lot worse off.

The hospitality industry is the second biggest employer in the country. If a large number of them are no longer operating, they will not be employing staff. The staff will not be being paid as they are not employed. If they are not being paid they will not be paying tax. Without taxation there is no money for the NHS. Someone has to make money to pay taxes to fund public services. So, yes it does make sense to try to prevent the industry going under.

Mindareno · 21/12/2021 16:39

@Thethingswedidanddidntdo

I keep seeing this argument about people with cancer etc not being treated, as a reason NOT to introduce lockdowns. I would be genuinely thankful if someone could explain that logic to me as I must be missing something. The way I understand it we need MORE restrictions in order to take pressure off the NHS so non-covid patients can be seen?? What am I missing here guys
I agree in that lockdowns reduce covid pressures on the NHS, freeing up resources for cancer patients.

However the other side of the coin is we know that there are lots of people with cancer who haven’t been referred during lockdowns. Complex reasons for that issue, but it would seem clear the “stay at home” and “protect the NHS” messages are part of it. My husband is an oncologist and he says the late presenters with a poor prognosis he is seeing now is heartbreaking.

None of it is easy.

NeverDropYourMoonCup · 21/12/2021 16:39

@RoastedParsnips

But I have common sense. Sad So do others. It's not fair on us, we don't need to be a nanny state because people are idiots to put it politely. I have next to nothing immune system and I've managed to keep myself alive all these years and it's devastating. My childrens mental health from missing school so much has even been effected. It's so devastating. I just feel the government want to run this country into the ground and just be off at the next general election and get away with it just like Tony Blair did with the war. Was never prosecuted for war crimes. It's just terrible. I've really lost the plot haven't I?
It's the people who are idiots that are your problem, really. If they were like you, everything would be fine. The government (who are utterly shite) have to deal with idiots being the default because there are just so many of them.
Wickerwonder · 21/12/2021 16:41

I agree, it’s enough. We should be able to get on with our lives now. It’s been long enough. We have to learn to live with it.

bordermidgebite · 21/12/2021 18:06

Learning to live with it could mean

pretend it's gone away,

ignore the effect on others , ignore the buisnesses going bust when people make thier own lifestyle choices and accept an American healthcare system brought in once the nhs implodes as a result

or change our way of living for ever ( which I strongly suspect you don't mean )

Or we knuckle down , act sensible and get our lives back to how they used to be when the uncontrollable unpredictable nature wears itself out

GatoradeMeBitch · 21/12/2021 18:46

Most local restaurants in my town are doing great trade because they're now all on Just Eat and Deliveroo, and have pared back the in-restaurant service to a minimum.

Whitefire · 21/12/2021 19:06

OP I'm with you. I'm dealing with it by blocking everything out and just deal with the here and now.

EmiliaC · 21/12/2021 19:40

Very confused. I'm in Scotland and the only thing that's been cancelled is outdoors events over 500 people, indoor events over 100 (or 200?) and table service in pubs/restaurants introduced. Luxuries, in other words, and it doesn't include private events like weddings. There's no restrictions on meeting friends and family (unless you actually have the virus/have been exposed in which case isolation is obviously necessary).

Essential workers (NHS staff, supermarket workers, etc) don't even have to isolate, they just have to return negative tests, so we don't have the same problem as England are facing of care and supplies chains closing down.

How is that shutting down the country?

MarshaBradyo · 21/12/2021 19:42

I feel for anyone facing restrictions

Op Flowers

MarshaBradyo · 21/12/2021 19:47

Posters on other thread seem annoyed we haven’t done more here, eg cancelled stuff

I’m relieved and think it’s tough to get them, even if not harsh ones atm