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Advice on seeing someone unvaccinated

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Aspiringmatriarch · 20/12/2021 16:53

I've just found out a friend's partner is anti vaccinations. She has specifically requested to come and see us over the Christmas period, and I want to do this as she's had a very tough time recently and can't travel to our house on her own so would be with him. I've just had my booster jab so I'm probably reasonably well protected, as are all my immediate family with the exception of the under 10s. Just looking for thoughts on whether this is a sensible thing to go ahead with? Wait until summer and cases come down maybe? I understand unvaccinated people are much more likely to spread covid and this is a complication we could all do without, apart from any worries about the health impact. They're travelling from a place with very high infection rates as well.

So... do I request they do a lateral flow test before coming (which we will also do) and just keep the window open and not get too close? Or suggest we wait until it's warmer and we can all stay outside?

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dudsville · 20/12/2021 16:56

Only you can decide what's best for you, but twice recently I socialised in small groups that each had one anti vaxer, both of the anti vaxers reported a positive test within 48 hours of the meet up. I won't be doing this again even if the person has made up their own mind and made their own choices.

orchid2021 · 20/12/2021 16:58

you are all vaccinated so I just don't see the issue but if it makes you feel better ask them to do a lft but don't say it's because one of them are unvaccinated as it will come across as rude. just tell them you will be asking everyone who comes over to do a lft.

PurpleDaisies · 20/12/2021 16:59

I think a lot of people are doing lateral flows indoors.

I caught covid double vaxxed from my double vaxxed husband before omicron so I would be cautious with anyone coming to visit, not just anymore vaxxers.
Ventilation, space, keep it shorter, meet outdoors etc. I personally wouldn’t postpone but try and mitigate the risk as much as possible.

JanisMoplin · 20/12/2021 17:00

People on here will tell you should do the LFT and not treat her "like a leper".

Personally, I have not found LFTs very effective.I myself am not keen on meeting unvaxxed people until spring comes and we can sit outside.

PurpleDaisies · 20/12/2021 17:00

Sorry, a lot of people are doing lateral flows before meeting indoors, regardless of vaccination status is what I meant to say.

chordil · 20/12/2021 17:01

I don't really get how the unvaccinated spread it more when the jabs don't stop you actually getting covid.

It wouldn't bother me.

JanisMoplin · 20/12/2021 17:01

@chordil

I don't really get how the unvaccinated spread it more when the jabs don't stop you actually getting covid.

It wouldn't bother me.

You are wrong and it has been explained many times on here.

ANameChangeAgain · 20/12/2021 17:03

We are all vaccinated but still doing lfts for Christmas. There will be 8 from 3 households. It doesn't mean treating someone differently because they aren't vaccinated, it's just being sensible to keep everyone safe.

JanisMoplin · 20/12/2021 17:04

The cheekiness of demanding to see someone when you are unvaxxed and ruin their Xmas... well...

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Aspiringmatriarch · 20/12/2021 17:06

I don't really get how the unvaccinated spread it more when the jabs don't stop you actually getting covid.

Thank you but I'm looking for scientifically informed advice if possible. I think at this stage the information is out there if you're interested.

I'm trying to gauge how much this increases the risks to everyone and balance that against upsetting my friend.

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MummyPop00 · 20/12/2021 17:08

If you are vaxxed, I don’t see the issue. You either trust what the vaccines can do for you or you don’t. You’re probably going to catch Omicron regardless when out & about.

Wouldn’t even insist on an LFT to be honest, but that’s your call.

ShouldersBackChestOutChinUp · 20/12/2021 17:08

No chance. I wouldn't meet someone who wasn't vaxxed. They could be carrying a full viral load and I could contract it and pass it on to someone more vulnerable than me.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 20/12/2021 17:09

If you have unvaccinated kids living in your house I don't see the logic in worrying about seeing an unvaccinated adult.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 20/12/2021 17:09

@ShouldersBackChestOutChinUp

No chance. I wouldn't meet someone who wasn't vaxxed. They could be carrying a full viral load and I could contract it and pass it on to someone more vulnerable than me.

Do you have kids?

JanisMoplin · 20/12/2021 17:11

@Waxonwaxoff0

If you have unvaccinated kids living in your house I don't see the logic in worrying about seeing an unvaccinated adult.

I do not have unvaxxed kids, but adults are strictly optional, esp the partner of a friend. OP could see her later. Your own kids are not.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 20/12/2021 17:13

They are optional, but it's odd how people act like unvaccinated adults are carrying the plague but unvaccinated kids aren't.

XenoBitch · 20/12/2021 17:14

Have everyone do an LFT before meeting. You have been vaccinated so are protected. You are more of a risk to your unvaccinated guest than they are to you.

JanisMoplin · 20/12/2021 17:15

I mean it's pre-Xmas. People are entitled to be careful. They don't need to ruin their family gatherings to be "nice".

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Aspiringmatriarch · 20/12/2021 17:19

Sorry - to clarify it would be first week of January. Trying to be slightly vague.

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JanisMoplin · 20/12/2021 17:23

Oh then your Xmas wouldn't be ruined. In that case, maybe you might think differently.

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Aspiringmatriarch · 20/12/2021 17:24

I mean it wouldn't add extra risk before Christmas, which I would definitely not want to do at the moment.

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Notdoingthis · 20/12/2021 17:26

I don't see any problem meeting them. You are vaccinated.

Takemine · 20/12/2021 17:27

don't really get how the unvaccinated spread it more when the jabs don't stop you actually getting covid.

You are much more likely to get and transmit Covid if you're unvaccinated.

oopsydoopsy · 20/12/2021 17:29

My brother will be coming for Xmas, he is unvaccinated by choice, the rest of us including my elderly relative are all double vaccinated and boosted apart from my 17 yr old who is double vaccinated and my 12 yr old who has recently has Covid and not eligible for the vaccine yet.

We will all do a LFT and will be happy to have him. But will keep the room ventilated and maintain social distancing from him.

I won't have the vaccine discussion with him as our views are so different, but it won't stop me seeing him, he's my brother and spent last Christmas alone so I want him to come.

AnguaResurgam · 20/12/2021 17:39

It takes up to two weeks for the booster to 'take' and give the expected level of protection.

So I'd definitely postpone until after that period.

And yes, being vaccinated does not prevent you passing on covid, but it reduces the chances that you will. So for that reason I would be inclined to wait longer, until outdoors socialising is ikely to be less cold and wet

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