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Anyone reluctant to have booster?

235 replies

Tallulahss · 19/12/2021 07:59

I have had first 2 vaccinations and followed the rules since this all begin but all this mad panic about getting the booster NOW is not sitting easy with me, it's gone from u must wait 6 mths to everyone has to get it quick and I'm just not sure, any one else feel the same?

OP posts:
scottishtablet23 · 19/12/2021 11:05

@EmmaOvary

No, of course not. Jesus. Get the bloody thing so we can all get out of this as soon as possible.
the mind boggles that people still think like this and believe this will actually happen.... yes, it may do for a few months, before they come up against a new variant. Some life!
bigvig · 19/12/2021 11:05

@MrsSkylerWhite

Wonnle

Do you think that getting the third jab will stop you catching the virus ?

I'm double jabbed and seriously thinking about not bothering with the next one“

Lots of news reports in past couple of days of booster offering 80% protection against contracting omicron. Much less severe disease if you’re one of those who do.
Your call but not a very sensible one.

Yes I've heard those reports. How can they possibly know that this quickly. I also remember being told that the vaccines were 95% effective against catching the virus. That has changed and now they are not effective at all but at least you don't get as ill (which is conveniently impossible to prove).
SpookyScarySkeletons · 19/12/2021 11:07

@Supertree

Yes, I’m terrified. I really want to have it but have severe needle phobia. Have refused things in the past and was late getting my initial vaccinations. They were really good though - the place was not busy because I’d left it so long and rushed me through cos of how I was acting, had me lie down and do it with my feet up, never left alone etc. I actually thought maybe it was helping me get over my phobia as best reaction I’ve ever had. But there’s no way I can queue outside for ages before even getting in there surrounded by it all. I will pass out before I get through the door. I feel very worried about it and just bloody hate having this embarrassing phobia. I feel the need to convince the nurses that I am usually a normal, logical, intelligent person. I have even violently lashed out before - it’s like my body thinks they’re trying to murder me Sad
I had mine on Friday at my GP surgery. I'm also really bad with needles and was dreading a queue like when I had my first and second.

It was run exceedingly well. Two of us in the waiting room, called straight through, no wait afterwards. Nurse was great at calming me. Had DH with me and he held my hand and talked to me as he was booked in for the same time.

(Funnily though I was there for a blood test at the same time. Freaked out about 2 tiny needles and then the nurse laughed at me cos I have a wrist tattoo 😂😂)

baroqueandblue · 19/12/2021 11:07

OP, I get that your post was asking for replies from anyone who has been reluctant to have a booster injection. Instead you get a pile-on of the usual gangbusting virtue signallers who think they own every thread on the subject. Even if it isn't about them. But what can you do - virtue signallers gonna signal Confused

I haven't had one because of complications from the first two shots that still haven't been sufficiently attended to or investigated by the health service. After the utter misery of the last 7 months I won't risk a further dose of whatever until I get some considered feedback. Finally got an appointment date from the referral that was made almost 4 months ago, so am hoping the specialist physio can help next month (assuming the appointment isn't put back). I've never known pain like it, and I know pain.

Pensieve · 19/12/2021 11:07

@carrythecan

saying “hospitalisations in SA show X” is not a like for like comparison. Tons have people have already had the virus in SA so may have a type of immunity, they are also a much younger population etc. you can think other people are being selective in their data - which is exactly what you are doing.

WiseUpJanetWeiss · 19/12/2021 11:09

It won't reduce your chance of catching it at all

This is a lie.

MrsSkylerWhite · 19/12/2021 11:10

“It won't reduce your chance of catching it at all”

Completely incorrect.

SpookyScarySkeletons · 19/12/2021 11:12

@baroqueandblue

OP, I get that your post was asking for replies from anyone who has been reluctant to have a booster injection. Instead you get a pile-on of the usual gangbusting virtue signallers who think they own every thread on the subject. Even if it isn't about them. But what can you do - virtue signallers gonna signal Confused

I haven't had one because of complications from the first two shots that still haven't been sufficiently attended to or investigated by the health service. After the utter misery of the last 7 months I won't risk a further dose of whatever until I get some considered feedback. Finally got an appointment date from the referral that was made almost 4 months ago, so am hoping the specialist physio can help next month (assuming the appointment isn't put back). I've never known pain like it, and I know pain.

81% of the UK (according to bbc news) is vaccinated.

Of course the majority of responses will be from people who have had the vaccination and aren't worries about a booster.

Over 25m (again according to the BBC) have had a booster so far.

The people who are concerned and don't want it are in the minority.

Also - having a vaccination and a booster isn't bloody "virtue-signalling". I have had it to protect myself as I am high risk. I don't exactly walk around with a badge of honour Hmm

carrythecan · 19/12/2021 11:15

[quote Pensieve]@carrythecan

saying “hospitalisations in SA show X” is not a like for like comparison. Tons have people have already had the virus in SA so may have a type of immunity, they are also a much younger population etc. you can think other people are being selective in their data - which is exactly what you are doing.[/quote]
Which is exactly my point. The evidence from South Africa shows that natural immunity works, so why are we insistent that we all need jabs plus boosters ad infinitum even if we have had Covid!

Yes the population of S. Africa is younger and less obese, so there are more vulnerable people in the UK who should get vaccinated, but let everyone else build up a natural immunity.

UnshakenNeedsStirring · 19/12/2021 11:24

Yes, I am so confused! Obviously I want to protect myself and my son. But the more I read about issues people have had online the more confused I get.
After my first vaccine in March, I developed Costochondritis, I thought I was having a heart attack. My GP sent me off to A&E saying I might have a blood clot. I was in agony and it took me 10 weeks ish to feel normal. The doctors said it was because I was working long hours at my desk. I also didnt get my periods for 3 months and when I got them it was awful and I had flooding :(
After my second vaccine I developed Arrhythmia.
Then I get a severe ear infection (unrelated, I know!) Took 7 weeks to go away and I had 2 hospital visit and saw a consultant the third time. Very painful agaian. All I can remember this year is being sick.....

EnidSpyton · 19/12/2021 11:25

I had the first two vaccines not because I felt I medically needed them, but because I wanted to be able to travel.

Now I'm going to need a booster to be considered fully vaccinated.

And then eventually I'll 'need' a fourth, and a fifth, and so on.

I don't see where this is all going to end.

The vaccines don't work that effectively for that long. They don't stop you catching covid or passing it on, they just stop you getting less severe symptoms. So they're not a 'way out' of the pandemic, as people keep saying, because they're not stopping it from circulating. They are a weapon in a wider arsenal that also needs to be utilised - social distancing, masks, regular testing, contact tracing, isolation, etc. But that wider arsenal hasn't been used or encouraged effectively, and so we're down to vaccines only. And as the evidence shows, they really are not an adequate line of defence, because here we are again on the brink of lockdown.

The problem is, the government messaging since the vaccine was discovered has been that the vaccines are a golden bullet and now we've got the vaccines we don't need to worry about anything else anymore. Hence the massive drop in compliance with face masks - I was on the tube yesterday, and there was a strike, so the tubes were absolutely packed to the rafters (thanks TfL!) and half of the people on there didn't have a face mask on. And people who are vaccinated are told they don't need to take LFTs before they go to places, they're told they don't need to self isolate, etc, even when we know that having the vaccine doesn't do diddly squat to stop you catching or passing on covid. So vaccinated people think they're invincible and can do what they like when they go out, and so we all continue to spread covid like there's no tomorrow. Hence the case numbers we now have.

This messaging of vaccines = invincibility has caused a huge amount of damage in terms of reducing public compliance with other mitigation measures - which has led to the wider spread of covid - and has also led to a huge amount of division in society between those who have chosen to get vaccinated and those who haven't. The absolute vitriol thrown at unvaccinated people by smug bastards who think because they've been vaccinated they've somehow done the whole world a favour is sickening. Unvaccinated people are at no greater risk of giving covid to someone else than a vaccinated person.

I just feel the constant coercion to get vaccinated is an attempt for the government to cover up for all the other stuff they haven't done to protect society. I don't see what good continuing to spend billions on revaccinating everyone every three months is going to do when it doesn't stop covid circulating like wildfire. If we spent some of this money on sorting out the fact we don't have enough hospital beds for our population, we might not be in a position where our healthcare system collapses every single winter, and so is better equipped to cope with what is very clear is going to be an endemic disease for the foreseeable future.

thepeopleversuswork · 19/12/2021 11:27

No. I just cannot begin to understand why anyone could be more anxious about getting the vaccine than they would getting Covid. It seems absolutely crazy to me.

Cam77 · 19/12/2021 11:31

@carrythecan
I agree. There’s a part of me that questions at this stage whether the UK government (and others of course) are just using the Pfizer vaccine (endless Pfizer vaccines) as a relatively cheap no brainer solution to keep the economy going at all costs in the short term - without due consideration as to whether they are the best long term solution - either health wise or economy wise.

The majority of the planet hasn’t even had the initial vaccine (46% - what used to be known as “fully vaccinated”). And yet here the authorities are saying that UK, a top20 healthcare nation, is going to melt down if we don’t all get a 3rd vaccine (and get in the queue all kids over 5!).

Something isn’t adding up.

Wonnle · 19/12/2021 11:33

@thepeopleversuswork

No. I just cannot begin to understand why anyone could be more anxious about getting the vaccine than they would getting Covid. It seems absolutely crazy to me.
Ah but what if the "cure" is worse than the disease
EnidSpyton · 19/12/2021 11:34

@thepeopleversuswork

No. I just cannot begin to understand why anyone could be more anxious about getting the vaccine than they would getting Covid. It seems absolutely crazy to me.
Because some people have had very severe side effects from the vaccines.

Vaccines aren't a straightforward experience for everyone. For people with autoimmune conditions in particular, vaccines can wreak far more havoc on the body than the conditions they are being vaccinated against.

Milder side effects can also be of concern to people at different phases of their life. I am as regular as clockwork and didn't have a period for two months after both of my doses. Menstrual cycle irregularities are increasingly being reported as vaccine side effects and no one is doing anything about researching this (cos who cares about women's problems?!). For women who are TTC, the possibility of potentially losing several months' opportunity to get pregnant is understandably concerning and might give some women reason to hesitate.

Just because something seems 'crazy' to you doesn't mean it is crazy. It just means you haven't thought about how other people might experience something that to you has been a very straightforward decision. For other people, other factors in their lives or health might make the vaccine more anxiety inducing than covid.

stingofthebutterfly · 19/12/2021 11:35

No, got my booster bang on 6 months. Don't know why you wouldn't tbh.

wincarwoo · 19/12/2021 11:35

@GreenWhiteViolet

Yes. I'm not having it any time soon. I'll consider it if they approve a booster vaccine that doesn't use mRNA technology.

I respect everyone else's right to decide whether they want it or not. The 'do it NOW!' messaging just gets on my nerves.

The numbers in hospital really get on my nerves. Especially the ones not vaxxed.
baroqueandblue · 19/12/2021 11:35

Also - having a vaccination and a booster isn't bloody "virtue-signalling". I have had it to protect myself as I am high risk. I don't exactly walk around with a badge of honour hmm

It is on a thread specifically asking for replies from anyone reluctant to have a booster Confused

@UnshakenNeedsStirring I'm so sorry to hear about the year you've had post-vaccination. Your response really resonates with me, that experience of having been permanently ill since the injections. Myself and a close friend have both been tentatively diagnosed (GP, pre-consultant visit) with post-herpetic neuralgia (amongst other things) and the thinking in both of our cases is that the vaccine reactivated the shingles virus. I originally had shingles over 25 years ago and it didn't leave me in agony for months like this.

Are you over your ear infection yet? It sounds like a nasty one, given that it affected you for so long. Hope you're managing OK Flowers

MrsSkylerWhite · 19/12/2021 11:36

UnshakenNeedsStirring

After my first vaccine in March, I developed Costochondritis, I thought I was having a heart attack“

I developed it after throwing furniture into a skip at the dump 🤷‍♀️ Do I never get rid of rubbish again.

All of those things happen to millions of people every day. Probably completely unrelated. Would give the dire reports of issues online a rest, talk to a health professional about any worries and get yourself boosted.

wincarwoo · 19/12/2021 11:36

@Tallulahss

Yes I have heard of omricon!!!! And I'm not saying don't get it I'm just a bit apprehensive. Symptoms of omricon sore throat, sniffles etc umm so basically a cold. And how many more variants, how many more jabs?!! How long b4 we are popping off for a monthly jab just because buffoon boris tells us we must.
Have you seen any of the numbers? Have you seen what's happening elsewhere? Johnson has nothing to do with it
carrythecan · 19/12/2021 11:37

@EnidSpyton

I had the first two vaccines not because I felt I medically needed them, but because I wanted to be able to travel.

Now I'm going to need a booster to be considered fully vaccinated.

And then eventually I'll 'need' a fourth, and a fifth, and so on.

I don't see where this is all going to end.

The vaccines don't work that effectively for that long. They don't stop you catching covid or passing it on, they just stop you getting less severe symptoms. So they're not a 'way out' of the pandemic, as people keep saying, because they're not stopping it from circulating. They are a weapon in a wider arsenal that also needs to be utilised - social distancing, masks, regular testing, contact tracing, isolation, etc. But that wider arsenal hasn't been used or encouraged effectively, and so we're down to vaccines only. And as the evidence shows, they really are not an adequate line of defence, because here we are again on the brink of lockdown.

The problem is, the government messaging since the vaccine was discovered has been that the vaccines are a golden bullet and now we've got the vaccines we don't need to worry about anything else anymore. Hence the massive drop in compliance with face masks - I was on the tube yesterday, and there was a strike, so the tubes were absolutely packed to the rafters (thanks TfL!) and half of the people on there didn't have a face mask on. And people who are vaccinated are told they don't need to take LFTs before they go to places, they're told they don't need to self isolate, etc, even when we know that having the vaccine doesn't do diddly squat to stop you catching or passing on covid. So vaccinated people think they're invincible and can do what they like when they go out, and so we all continue to spread covid like there's no tomorrow. Hence the case numbers we now have.

This messaging of vaccines = invincibility has caused a huge amount of damage in terms of reducing public compliance with other mitigation measures - which has led to the wider spread of covid - and has also led to a huge amount of division in society between those who have chosen to get vaccinated and those who haven't. The absolute vitriol thrown at unvaccinated people by smug bastards who think because they've been vaccinated they've somehow done the whole world a favour is sickening. Unvaccinated people are at no greater risk of giving covid to someone else than a vaccinated person.

I just feel the constant coercion to get vaccinated is an attempt for the government to cover up for all the other stuff they haven't done to protect society. I don't see what good continuing to spend billions on revaccinating everyone every three months is going to do when it doesn't stop covid circulating like wildfire. If we spent some of this money on sorting out the fact we don't have enough hospital beds for our population, we might not be in a position where our healthcare system collapses every single winter, and so is better equipped to cope with what is very clear is going to be an endemic disease for the foreseeable future.

Absolutely agree EnidSpyton.
wincarwoo · 19/12/2021 11:39

@antisocialsocialclub

I’ll get it, although I’m not happy about it. I feel we were sold the idea of vaccine = freedom and now I’m coming to the realisation that 1. We aren’t anymore free than the people who didn’t vaccinate and 2. I can see us having a booster or vaccine now for every single variant that comes out.
Yep and? This is unprecedented so our lives may well be punctuated with boosters. At least we have them available.

The problem is we don't have enough people vaxxed to give us freedom.

carrythecan · 19/12/2021 11:39

[quote Cam77]@carrythecan
I agree. There’s a part of me that questions at this stage whether the UK government (and others of course) are just using the Pfizer vaccine (endless Pfizer vaccines) as a relatively cheap no brainer solution to keep the economy going at all costs in the short term - without due consideration as to whether they are the best long term solution - either health wise or economy wise.

The majority of the planet hasn’t even had the initial vaccine (46% - what used to be known as “fully vaccinated”). And yet here the authorities are saying that UK, a top20 healthcare nation, is going to melt down if we don’t all get a 3rd vaccine (and get in the queue all kids over 5!).

Something isn’t adding up.[/quote]
Yes! I feel like they are just constantly switching focus and hyping up the panic just to hide their incompetence.

EnidSpyton · 19/12/2021 11:45

@wincarwoo

'The problem is we don't have enough people vaxxed to give us freedom.'

This isn't true.

The very small % of unvaccinated people in the UK are not the reason why covid is circulating at this rate. Scientifically that would be impossible.

Covid is circulating rapidly because of the lack of other measures besides vaccination. Vaccination does not stop you catching or passing on covid. So if you're vaccinated but a) not wearing a face mask b) not testing regularly c) socialising widely in unventilated spaces etc, you're going to be just as able to pass covid on to numerous people as someone who is unvaccinated.

This is why everyone needs to keep following other mitigation measures and stop acting as if the vaccine makes them a covid free zone. Without face masks, distancing, hygiene, ventilation, etc, we will be stuck in this position forever more. Vaccines are not a golden bullet.

wincarwoo · 19/12/2021 11:45

@carrythecan You have seen the numbers? The government is trying to react to an ever changing virus which has never been seen before.
If hospitals are overwhelmed then yes there is a huge impact. Also people ill who are unable to carry out their essential jobs.

London is in "major incident" mode.