Would you comply.. Yes or no? Circuit breaker or whatever they'll decide to turn it into.

[MarmitesMyMate]

No explanation needed. Just a yes or no.

For me it's a hard NO.

No

I will still see my close family for one day at Christmas but anything other than that yes if it is needed.

@howdiditcometothis666

No, a full RA includes all that I know about my family weighing up everything to ensure they are safe and making the best decision for us all.

Why are you so bothered about me choosing to keep my family safe?

Is it a regional thing?

South East here - and hardly anyone even talks about Covid anymore... it's wonderful!

Family in London - and same there.

Absolutely 100% NO!

No

If the biggest risk to an individual family is from covid then I assume they are already behaving in a way that minimises the likelihood of catching it, that is a completely reasonable response. Likewise, I am behaving in a way that reduces the impact of the biggest risk to my family - currently that of my mental health deteriorating severely. That doesn’t mean I’m not also taking covid risks into account, just that it isn’t the biggest one

@TheKeatingFive

It' only 2 weeks

Past performance would suggest this is highly unlikely

The longer you leave it the longer it'll be though. In March 2020 and Jan 2021 we were about the last to lockdown and last to open back up.

Why are you so bothered about me choosing to keep my family safe?

No one cares what people do on an individual level. It's when that spills into telling the rest of the population what they should do that it becomes a problem. (I'm not saying you are trying to tell other people btw). People can risk assess for themselves.

No. Not a chance I'll be complying.

For all I'm outspoken against them - we've followed rules, we've done what was asked of us, we trotted along to get jabs to get our way to freedom... they've taken the piss and it's brought us right back to where we were last year - doing the Christmas lockdown indecision thing, Europe calling us plague island and banning travel, people having bought all their Xmas stuff and having the rug pulled out from under them again... so no - I now have a child on the waiting list for CAHMs and another who was so damaged by it all we're only just getting our kid back now... fuck it - I'm doing whatever we can get away with doing in terms of what's open and who wants to meet up.

Absolutely not. My local area has barely any cases and my entire family live within a street radius. It's probably safer seeing them than going to Sainsburys.

Yes, I'm not a selfish asshole

@Houseofvelour

To all saying they're law abiding, does it bother you that the people setting these rules are also breaking them? If the government followed the directions they gave, I might actually listen but if even they can't, what's the point?

THIS 👍🏻

@DigitalGhost

Absolutely not. My local area has barely any cases and my entire family live within a street radius. It's probably safer seeing them than going to Sainsburys.

Well of course, and it always has been. The problem is when one of you goes to Sainsbury’s brings it back gives it a family member who then takes it back to the other people they want to mix with etc. If Boris left tonight though what do people wanted happen? It seems to think we have locked down soon enough ( again) and the others think we need to live with it. Same old dilemma..

The longer you leave it the longer it'll be though. In March 2020 and Jan 2021 we were about the last to lockdown and last to open back up.

There's no point in doing it right now though as people won't comply before Christmas and the hospitality sector would be up in arms.

Not to mention the leadership challenge it would trigger and if you think you've got problems with Boris, imagine what it would be like with Steve Baker at the helm.

I won’t stop seeing my family and friends this time. I’ll comply in every other way….probably won’t have a choice.

No

Won’t host an illegal rave but won’t stop seeing vaccinated friends and family after negative lfts.

@crushedgrape

Yes

I don't care what the government did, but I do care about my family and friends and the impact on the healthcare system.

The people saying no also care about the healthcare system .. but here's a crazy thought! How about they actually employ more staff then it won't be so "overwhelmed"

@oftenbaffled

Is it a regional thing?

South East here - and hardly anyone even talks about Covid anymore... it's wonderful!

Family in London - and same there.

Really? My friends in London say they’re cancelling everything at the moment because it’s so rife.

Re the OP. I would do exactly what I did last winter (and was allowed to do, in Scotland) which was meet up with friends and their kids outdoors.

My friends in London say they’re cancelling everything at the moment because it’s so rife.

I am in London. I have cancelled everything for the next few days. I have been in too much contact with currently active cases for it to be reasonable to take myself into other situations.

Just had a phone call from a friend to say the pub we wanted to go to on Wednesday for lunch now has a cancellation 🎉🎉🎉
Meeting my 3 closest friends on Wednesday for lunch now.🍷🍷🍷
Nicola Sturgeon better not think about a lockdown.

@oftenbaffled

Is it a regional thing?

South East here - and hardly anyone even talks about Covid anymore... it's wonderful!

Family in London - and same there.

I think some people just have nothing else to do, they like to spread their doom and misery with talk of deaths and selfishness. Depressing isn't it.

Not depressing at all userxx, just chatting with friends earlier this week and they mentioned that they were cancelling lots of plans at the moment, we had a good laugh about the shortage of LF tests and having to use them sparingly according to how much you want to attend a social event… weirdly enough there are lots of us that can talk about covid without it being about deaths or misery

does it bother you that the people setting these rules are also breaking them?
If the government followed the directions they gave, I might actually listen but if even they can't, what's the point?

Why should I take the behaviour of Boris et al as my own standards? If I follow restrictions, it would be because I want to keep myself and others safe. Not because I want to be like the government. The restrictions and general Covid advice aren't mainly the government's idea anyway; they are their medical advisers' idea.

What has shocked me the most in all this isn't the government's hypocrisy in breaking their own rules. Yes, of course they're hypocrites; we've known this forever. It is that vile creature Joy Morrissey tweeting that 'Perhaps the unelected Covid public health spokesperson should defer to what our ELECTED members of Parliament and the prime minister have decided.' Because Chris Whitty had made health-related suggestions (not laws). Health advice is NOT a political party matter, and is NOT determined by democratic vote! Laws may be determined by vote; health advice is not!

@godmum56

Yes but I am not sure it will happen although there may be limitations. The thing is (and this is from Chris Whitty) the cost to mental health and the economy will be the same but there will be less additional benefit because we now have the vaccines. In my mind that's why its so important that people do the things they have been asked to do....get jabbed, prioritise choices, masks and socially distance and so on...because a lockdown won't add much benefit.

Very reasoned post, it’s far more nuanced than yes/no, (and depends for me what they expect us to comply with).