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To think we soon won’t be isolating even when we have covid.

535 replies

Grida · 16/12/2021 17:58

If covid is spreading as rapidly as it seems to be, surely people who have tested positive but who don’t have symptoms/aren’t feeling ill will have to carry on working. The country will stop functioning otherwise.

OP posts:
aliceca · 21/12/2021 15:01

@Covidclaire no. Why would I?

Awalkintime · 21/12/2021 15:02

[quote aliceca]@Awalkintime yep health anxiety, anxious, people are openly mocked if it is about covid.
I have an acquaintance who has always been anxious. Covid has made her virtually housebound. But apparently its okay to mock her now.

Honestly a lot of people are vile.[/quote]
It seems so, but the mental health of the other group is way more important so we must support their mental health all the while mocking others and adding to their concerns.

Starcup · 21/12/2021 15:03

@Awalkintime

Starcup So you support mocking those with mental health issues? Ok then.

My post said nothing about isolating and expecting anyone else to. My post said nothing about learning to live with it. My post said nothing about a civil duty. So you didn't read it at all if those are your responses.

It said people are mocking those who are vulnerable and that seems to be ok to some. Clearly it is ok to you to carry on.

Behave with your nonsense. Your response is like that of a 10 year old!
aliceca · 21/12/2021 15:04

@Awalkintime I have read so many ecv people whose consultants have told them not to go crowded places saying family are mocking them for "hiding in their house". So they are not even medically anxious, just following their Drs advice and still being mocked.
And yes of course some vulnerable people are going to be anxious. We are living through a pandemic so its hardly surprising.

Awalkintime · 21/12/2021 15:05

Starcup
Well yours made no sense at all in response to what I had written just bleating on about things I had no mentioned yet not saying yes mocking those with anxiety is disgusting so I assumed you felt it was ok. What else would I assume if you didn't address my comment but skirt over it and just talk about other crap that had no correlation to my comment at all.

Starcup · 21/12/2021 15:05

[quote aliceca]@Awalkintime yep health anxiety, anxious, people are openly mocked if it is about covid.
I have an acquaintance who has always been anxious. Covid has made her virtually housebound. But apparently its okay to mock her now.

Honestly a lot of people are vile.[/quote]
And you’re a hypocrite

Starcup · 21/12/2021 15:08

@Awalkintime

Starcup Well yours made no sense at all in response to what I had written just bleating on about things I had no mentioned yet not saying yes mocking those with anxiety is disgusting so I assumed you felt it was ok. What else would I assume if you didn't address my comment but skirt over it and just talk about other crap that had no correlation to my comment at all.
Ffs most people aren’t mocking anyone!

Most people just want to get on with their lives!

It’s not a competition whose MH is suffering most.

Awalkintime · 21/12/2021 15:08

[quote aliceca]@Awalkintime I have read so many ecv people whose consultants have told them not to go crowded places saying family are mocking them for "hiding in their house". So they are not even medically anxious, just following their Drs advice and still being mocked.
And yes of course some vulnerable people are going to be anxious. We are living through a pandemic so its hardly surprising.[/quote]
It really is awful to read but this is how vulnerable people have always been treated by those in society and I think this pandemic has shown who people really are.

Awalkintime · 21/12/2021 15:09

Starcup
They really are and I gave examples of these which again I presume you skirted over in my comment.

aliceca · 21/12/2021 15:10

@Awalkintime I agree. It is awful and makes me so sad.

Awalkintime · 21/12/2021 15:10

At no point did I say it was a competition but it really would be nice that everyone has their mental health considered not just openly mocking one group while supporting others.

Starcup · 21/12/2021 15:12

@Awalkintime

At no point did I say it was a competition but it really would be nice that everyone has their mental health considered not just openly mocking one group while supporting others.
I don’t know what kind of people go round mocking ECV for choosing not to go to crowded places.

That’s the best thing they can do to help protect themselves.

Awalkintime · 21/12/2021 15:16

Starcup
But that was the very point of my comment. That some of those very people are on this thread and on every covid thread as it seems it is perfectly acceptable in society to mock the vulnerable for a very rational fear.

aliceca · 21/12/2021 15:19

@Starcup happens all the time on MN

Starcup · 21/12/2021 15:21

Well they’re just twats!!

aliceca · 21/12/2021 15:25

Oh I know that.

Awalkintime · 21/12/2021 15:26

Yes we know and there are many of them on this thread.

Blossomtoes · 21/12/2021 15:31

[quote aliceca]@Awalkintime exactly. Lets face it most people don't give a fuck about ill and disabled kids anyway.[/quote]
So you keep saying and it’s patently untrue.

aliceca · 21/12/2021 15:32

@Blossomtoes I keep saying it because I look at actions not words. Where are all the well funded out of school activities for severely disabled kids? Or the respite schemes for desperate parents? Or the voters telling government these things matter?
Look at actions, not words. They tell you the truth.

Blossomtoes · 21/12/2021 15:36

[quote aliceca]@Blossomtoes I keep saying it because I look at actions not words. Where are all the well funded out of school activities for severely disabled kids? Or the respite schemes for desperate parents? Or the voters telling government these things matter?
Look at actions, not words. They tell you the truth.[/quote]
What’s any of that got to do with isolating and covid? Start a thread about it if you want to talk about that. Two children (that we know about) were tortured for months and murdered because of isolation. Don’t they and others like them matter?

aliceca · 21/12/2021 15:38

Of course they do. And if people really cared they would make sure SS was properly funded.
I think it is crocodile tears and means fuck all.

Bagelsandbrie · 21/12/2021 15:42

@aliceca I actually agree with you that we should be funding sick leave in a better way than we are now so that people who are genuinely unable to work should be able to recover. And of course that ties into the whole “giving a fuck” about disabilities because it relates to PIP, disability benefits and our whole general attitude as a society to those who are disabled - most people have a very strange attitude that disability is something that happens to other people, never to “them” - until it does.

But - that’s not actually what this thread is about really. Not everyone who has Covid is actually unwell. That’s the point. We are shutting down sectors of our whole society - especially the NHS - based on people having to stay home when they aren’t actually too unwell to work.

It’s not about sick pay for people who are genuinely unwell or too ill to work.

It’s about people testing positive for something that for the vast majority of people - including those who are vulnerable and have been vaccinated- will be a mild illness, and them having to stay home for 10 days because the government says so.

That’s madness.

I had an eye emergency a few months ago which meant I was at risk of going blind but because the eye specialist was off isolating I was unable to see anyone for 2 days - which is too long in an emergency situation like that, it should be within a few hours at most- because there was no one else available. At that stage I would have gladly seen him, positive covid or not, if he felt well enough to work as I would take my chances with covid but not with going blind. As it happened - and not because of anything other than sheer luck - it turned out to not be a retinal detachment but was something else related to my poor eyesight instead. But it was a very scary 48 hours and one which just shouldn’t have happened but for covid isolating stuff. (I also live rurally so hospitals are few and far between- the nearest other one was 60 miles away).

HailAdrian · 21/12/2021 16:09

@HailAdrian If I have flu or even a cold, I didn't go and visit my gran in a care home. Some people do still go into care homes when ill.
If I had an illness that meant I was frequently sneezing, I didn't go to crowded public places.
None of this is rocket science, its just basic consideration everyone should be doing. But many people dont.

I agree with you. The problem is though, many people can't avoid going out because many employers, unless you're on your deathbed, don't give a shit if you're ill, they expect you in.

MummyPop00 · 21/12/2021 16:13

Not read whole thread but here’s my two cents

I feel we have to tough it out this time. No guarantees that doing so will end well. But we have to find out. Otherwise, if variants keep escaping prior immunity every 6 mths or so (& no-one can guarantee that won't happen), we may have lockdowns every 6-12 months forever.

News from SA is relatively good + lots of previous Covid exposure in UK as a consequence of opening up in July + lots now vaxxed.

Regarding the CEV

Being selfish works both ways.

Besides if the CEV really are that vulnerable, a lot of pathogens out there would be potentially lethal not just Covid. CEV existed in 2019 and coped ok, Covid unfortunately is just another bullet to dodge, what can you do?

Unfortunately everyone is going to get Covid at least once. Blame nature.

Isolation needs to stop after this Omicron wave imho.

DoraTheScottishExplorer · 21/12/2021 16:17

I think @Bagelsandbrie has nailed if I had cancer I would rather see the doctor with covid and possibly catch it than delay treatment and it potentially be to late by that point and definitely die.