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Is it only unvaccinated people in hospital?

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newyorkbreakfast · 15/12/2021 22:13

Just wondering if there are any stats on this? Clearly govt doesn't release this info as they don't want folk to relax. However, I am wondering about the enormous flap over the new variant? If you've been double jabbed and /or boostered, surely you won't end up in hospital? In which case, the NHS won't be overwhelmed and we can treat covid at home like we would any other illness.
Or are there that many unvaccinated people that the hospital cases are rising for this reason alone?

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Postdatedpandemic · 15/12/2021 22:16

There are some vaccinated people in hospital.
It was on the slides from the press conference today.
What rock bridge have you been hiding under?

Is it only unvaccinated people in hospital?
Grimbelina · 15/12/2021 22:17

People who are double jabbed/boostered will end up in hospital as none of the vaccines give 100% protection and if you are elderly/vulnerable/have co-morbidities then a very highly infectious virus/variant will find and infect some of that group, even if proportionally the un or partially vaccinated are much more likely to be seriously ill/die.

XenoBitch · 15/12/2021 22:18

Of course there are vaccinated people in hospital.

kirinm · 15/12/2021 22:19

@newyorkbreakfast

Just wondering if there are any stats on this? Clearly govt doesn't release this info as they don't want folk to relax. However, I am wondering about the enormous flap over the new variant? If you've been double jabbed and /or boostered, surely you won't end up in hospital? In which case, the NHS won't be overwhelmed and we can treat covid at home like we would any other illness. Or are there that many unvaccinated people that the hospital cases are rising for this reason alone?
1/3 of London is completely unvaccinated.
Booklover3 · 15/12/2021 22:22

Of course there are. The vaccine doesn’t stop you contracting Covid. Some people’s bodies (for many different reasons) won’t be able to fight it as effectively… even with the vaccine.

Postdatedpandemic · 15/12/2021 22:24

The government do release this data.

titchy · 15/12/2021 22:24

Just wondering if there are any stats on this? Clearly govt doesn't release this info as they don't want folk to relax

Loads of stats. On telly and everything. So no, it isn't clear the Gov doesn't want to release this info in order to stop everyone relaxing. Hmm

RockallMalinHebrides · 15/12/2021 22:25

My husband has had three primary doses because of a compromised immune system and is currently in hospital with a nasty infection and COVID.

yellowgreysocks · 15/12/2021 22:30

Of course there are plenty of vaccinated people in hospital with covid. Some very unwell, some in with other things but then need isolating in the hospital and can't be discharged - it doesn't matter which, it's all pressure. The more covid there is, the greater this will be happening. Then there will be no room for anyone else.

orangeautumnleaves · 15/12/2021 22:32

Anecdotal only, but I work in a clinical role in A&E. the vast majority of patients who are coming to us with Covid are unvaccinated. When I say the majority I could guesstimate 90% of them. I can think of a couple who were vaccinated but tbh they were not clinical that unwell with Covid.

This has certainly been the case over the last several months, it remains to be seen with Omricon variant, but a high % of the elderly and clinically vulnerable have now had 3 jabs so I hope that keeps them safe.

Lucia574 · 15/12/2021 22:38

At my brother’s hospital, they have 31 in intensive care with covid. 25 are unvaccinated (including several pregnant women). The six who are jabbed have not had their boosters yet.

ICUDoc · 15/12/2021 22:48

Just anecdotal from me too.

Mostly unvaccinated in ITU here and in the surrounding ITU's. The ones that are vaccinated are either extremes of age, have significant co-morbidity or immunosuppression. One was triple jabbed unfortunately (man in mid 30's), but they weren't very sick and only stayed for 48 hours on the unit for monitoring really.

We discuss all the deaths every month and 80% of the deaths from covid in last 2 months were in unvaccinated people sadly.

We are all waiting with baited breath to see what presents the Omicron variant will give us for the holiday season.... so far it's just causing a lot of staff to have to isolate because of having a positive covid contact.... this affects the amount of beds you can open in a massive way.

ethelredonagoodday · 15/12/2021 22:59

My Dad was fully vaccinated and boosted, but he was immuno-suppressed and had recently had a course of chemo, so was pretty vulnerable. He caught covid and ended up in hospital. He died 3 weeks ago, and whilst he'd done well to get better and off the ventilator it was some of the covid related meds that he needed, that conflicted with his other meds and existing conditions and ultimately caused his death.

It's so sad, as he'd responded so well to all his other treatments and was really living his life to the full. Even with the covid he'd fought and they were taking about him moving closer to bring discharged. Was in his late 60s and still pretty active.

It's so so crap.

OnwardsAndSideways1 · 15/12/2021 23:02

I think this is what is behind the sudden panic, Omicron was seeded and is spreading extensively in London, and there's a large (1/3) of the population not vaccinated there; so the potential for larger numbers of unvaccinated to need hospital is very much there. Elsewhere, it might not be so much the case, in our area there's higher coverage of vaccinations and lower spread. The two are related. London is suddenly looking really worrying on this basis, it's the combination of high spread and lower vaccine, plus my guess is their hospital capacity is pretty stretched even in a normal winter.

OnwardsAndSideways1 · 15/12/2021 23:03

@ethelredonagoodday I'm so sorry to hear that, 60's is too young.

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newyorkbreakfast · 15/12/2021 23:11

A lot of young Londoners (late teens) aren't keen to get the vaccine. I think it's a worry, as the reasons are often cultural.
To whoever suggested I was hiding under a rock, let's just say it's healthy for mind, body and spirit not to be glued to the news every day. Why be so aggressive on a discussion thread?
It's been good to have people's ICU insight on this post– thank you for sharing.

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Pensieve · 15/12/2021 23:11

@ethelredonagoodday

💐 so sorry

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newyorkbreakfast · 15/12/2021 23:12

@ethel I'm so sorry to hear about your poor father. Hope you are all pulling through ok.

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AllKnowingGerbil · 15/12/2021 23:19

Sending lots of love to @ethelredonagoodday xx

ethelredonagoodday · 15/12/2021 23:23

Thanks all. It's rubbish, really rubbish, but have to keep putting one foot in front of the other.

SLH2003 · 16/12/2021 07:39

@newyorkbreakfast

A lot of young Londoners (late teens) aren't keen to get the vaccine. I think it's a worry, as the reasons are often cultural. To whoever suggested I was hiding under a rock, let's just say it's healthy for mind, body and spirit not to be glued to the news every day. Why be so aggressive on a discussion thread? It's been good to have people's ICU insight on this post– thank you for sharing.
There are a few posters who go to some lengths to try and rubbish the fact that the unvaxxed are ending up in hospital, with the info freely available and even shown on TV tonight. You can understand the questioning.
Whyevencare · 16/12/2021 07:50

In Scotland there are more vaccinated in hospital than unvaccinated.

Is it only unvaccinated people in hospital?
Papyrus · 16/12/2021 07:59

@Whyevencare

In Scotland there are more vaccinated in hospital than unvaccinated.
That's surely just maths though? If most of the population is vaccinated than there may well be more vaccinated people than unvaccinated people in hospital. But that's a very small proportion of the overall vaccinated population.
gogohm · 16/12/2021 08:03

There's double and triple vaccinated in hospital but not necessarily because of covid instead they could be like my friend who discovered she had it when she broke her arm and needed it set. Intensive care is full of unvaccinated people at my local hospital, the head consultant said they had no vaccinated people on local news

Whyevencare · 16/12/2021 08:07

@Papyrus

Well obviously but as the OPs question was is it only unvaccinated people in hospital I was merely answering Confused