Boris Xmas quiz leak, surely he has to resign now?

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There is a photo now of Boris hosting a work Xmas quiz with wine and beer when mixing of households and work parties not allowed.
Surely he has to resign or will be keep stating lies as fact that all guidelines were followed?

Whatever happened, we should be resisting this type of manipulation from Dom Cummings.

couldnt care less , with Starmer and rayner as an alternative , everyone wanting his resignation should be careful what they wish for

There’ll be people in the Tory party who will be thinking they need to get rid of Johnson precisely to increase their chances of beating Starmer, if they view Johnson as more of a liability than a vote winner.

I lost a close family member and wasn't able to spend their final Xmas with them. I'm furious about the Xmas party, about the alleged party Carrie Johnson had in their flat on the night Cummings resigned, about Nimco Ali spending Xmas with the Johnsons (childcare bubble, my arse), about Nimco Ali being appointed as a Special Adviser to the Home Office without the job being advertised, about a young man of 23 whose father is a Tory Donor being appointed as a Special Adviser to the Prime Minister, about Johnson blatantly lying about who paid for his flat refurb. I could go on and on.

I can't, however, get that worked up about him asking a few questions on a Zoom quiz.

All these parties/quizes/gatherings come under one umbrella and as he appears to have survived the news about the first one...
He will stay until the Tories have someone who will thrash him in a vote for leadership (not inch past him like an afterthought) and can do a brilliant job at the top so that they are well ahead before the next election. They can't afford another mistake (like May) so will hang on to Johnson until next year when the leadership challenge will be a calmer, more measured plan. Who will it be? Heaven knows.

It was supposed to be virtual.

It wasn't. It ended up with people clustered and getting sloshed together, traipsing from room to room.

So an office party, with a zoom quiz going on in tandem.

And Johnson was, visibly, proveably, present.

@Warhertisuff

It doesn't matter what I personally do or don't do, because I am not making the rules (as an aside it seems odd you check up on others, I wouldn't do that as it is a bit peculiar).

IMO it just is different for a PM who cancelled everyone else's Christmas.

Politically speaking, this is another weekend filled with 'did Johnson break his own laws/rules' at a time when the Tories have dropped to 8 or 9 points behind in the polls. So politically, it is a big deal. I look forward to seeing what the government has to say about it today.

I don't like Boris, but I can't get worked up about this.
Why aren't people this outraged by the underfunded NHS, police and social care?

We had a works virtual Christmas quiz over teams with food made by the school cook and we sat in our classrooms with our bubble classroom staff.

I'm sure we weren't breaking the law

If you have been in a room/ building all day with them, not sure it matters staying a bit longer with them to have a quiz with food and drink.

Boris and the Tories have done years and years of utterly deplorable things but this isn't one of them!

Agree with others, whilst it’s not exactly ideal it’s very similar to what many of us around the country were doing at the time. Zoom quizzes were definitely a thing. Can not bear him myself but this just seems desperate- do they want him gone to replace him with someone anti restrictions? Someone behind the scenes must be worried….

@trumpisagit

I don't like Boris, but I can't get worked up about this. Why aren't people this outraged by the underfunded NHS, police and social care?

This with bells off!

All the private sell offs of the nhs we aren't being told about. Instead the headline is his peppa pig gaffe.

@itispersonal

We had a works virtual Christmas quiz over teams with food made by the school cook and we sat in our classrooms with our bubble classroom staff.

I'm sure we weren't breaking the law

If you have been in a room/ building all day with them, not sure it matters staying a bit longer with them to have a quiz with food and drink.

Boris and the Tories have done years and years of utterly deplorable things but this isn't one of them!

This raises an interesting question regarding 'bubbles' and the rules perhaps, but presumably you potentially were in breach of the rules if the same rules applied to your area as applied to London at the time of this party.

So for those not familiar with zoom in a corporate setting, there is a "broadcast" type option, which is less interactive and the presenter does not see all (or maybe any) attendees. Given the absence of any attendees in shot in the screen grab it looks like this is what was used. The screenshot alone, does not evidence Boris Johnson knows what attendees were doing.

He won't resign because he's got the hide of a rhino. But I wouldn't be surprised if this prompts more letters to the 1922 committee. He's on borrowed time now.

@the80sweregreat

It's him sitting at a desk with people he had been previously working with. I loath him and pretty much all of them in his party , but if the Sunday mirror thinks this will oust him I think not to be perfectly honest. Am prepared to be told I'm wrong.

I think this. The party revelations are damaging. But this particular picture of Boris is no different than them sitting in a meeting together which presumably they justified as not being able to work effectively from home.

can think of things he could resign over but to ask a few questions from his office over zoom is not one of them. This is so overblown I'm now wondering if the other one has been over-egged too.

This one is perhaps overblown but it’s indicative of the fact that virtually the person in the country who still wants him as PM is Boris Johnson. The right wing media want him out as the clown has served his purpose and now the circus is getting out of hand. The majority of Tories want him out for the same reason. And of course normal decent people never wanted him in the first of place. Anyone with any kind of business, small/medium/large, would be terrified of having him on their team, whether from a professional or personal angle, and yet the Tories made him PM.

But this particular picture of Boris is no different than them sitting in a meeting together which presumably they justified as not being able to work effectively from home.

Apart from it not being a meeting, and therefore not allowed.

I know it gets nit-picky, but the law is nit-picky, that's the whole point.

Maybe no one had explained the rules to the government

The zoom thing is a non event to me.

I was raging about the party though.

What’s wrong with a virtual quiz?

Haven’t seen pic

Seems so silly at this point.

Who is "the source". Why be so sneaky about it all.

What makes me cross about this is that it undermines the genuine complaints against him. I was mad about the party because it felt like a slap in the face for the general public. This is being vaunted as being so bad that barristers are being involved to take criminal action, but I look at the facts and the report is full of 'allegedly' so even the newspaper is hedging its bets as if it's not sure of its facts. So if this is the level of evidence, it makes me wonder if I misjudged the first party. And on you of that, I'm beginning to also lose interest because it's all getting so overblown.
So if I feel that, and I was quite gung-ho with friends over the party, I'm sure others must feel the same and I can feel the chance to hold him to account slipping away.

@billysboy

couldnt care less , with Starmer and rayner as an alternative , everyone wanting his resignation should be careful what they wish for

Him resigning wouldn't trigger a GE, just a Tory leadership election. So you don't need to get concerned just yet.

@Motheroftigers

The zoom thing is a non event to me.

I was raging about the party though.

How do you feel about the two hours' drinking in Downing Street on this occasion?

@SickAndTiredAgain

couldnt care less , with Starmer and rayner as an alternative , everyone wanting his resignation should be careful what they wish for

There’ll be people in the Tory party who will be thinking they need to get rid of Johnson precisely to increase their chances of beating Starmer, if they view Johnson as more of a liability than a vote winner.

Ha Ha Starmer, a lawyer and a former DPP vs a man on zip wire, quotes pepper pig and makes brum brum noises.

Raynor, a woman with bad start in life, a former carer, who educated herself vs a man who didn't know Dover was vital to UK trade and stayed on holiday as Afghanistan fell into the hands of the Taliban.

Yes Pepper Pig for PM !!!

No wonder this country is falling apart.

I can feel the chance to hold him to account slipping away

I think what will be interesting is how many people today come out to defend him.

I think he will resign.

I think he is very very tired, he has had covid and guided the UK through a catastrophic event.

I genuinely dont think Labour could have done any better. In fact I shudder at the thought if they were in charge. We would have been right up there with the worst lockdowns, no one would be back at work and the kids would still be off school, as a country we would be utterly fucked.

People need to be thankful ( believe it or not ) that Tory was in at that point.

Keir Starmer was seen at a party, so they are not the only ones to do this but still its unforgivable.