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Spreading like wildfire- schools

255 replies

DirtyDancing · 09/12/2021 21:09

It's been pretty bad in London on and off.

But this is unprecedented on this scale- local schools which have had the odd cases here and there now seeing 8,10 children sometimes more getting it in a class. Multiple confirmed Ormicron case at local secondary and subsequently lateral flows coming back positive tonight. PCR results pending.

I know of full classes out, and two full year groups (Y3 & Y4) in two other schools .

Is it this bad anywhere else?

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BigWoollyJumpers · 10/12/2021 11:48

@Oblomov21

Not that bad here in Surrey, we are all continuing relatively normally hopefully until term finishes next Friday.
SW Surrey was 4th highest incidence of Covid in the UK a couple of weeks ago! Our MSOA was 1,800 per 100K!!!

Now heading back down the table. We hadn't been much effected throughout the entire pandemic, up to now. The virus goes in waves, and selects the remaining vulnerable population. It's now headed into London, which up until recently had the lowest incidence in the UK.

SuperHeroSweepStake · 10/12/2021 13:30

Yes, fairly high rates in our school.

I'm quite happy my children have had it. Give them some natural immunity and stop me thinking when is it our turn? It was very mild for them and for most of their classmates as far as I know.

RedToothBrush · 10/12/2021 13:44

[quote Dontforgetyourbrolly]@RedToothBrush there is no need to be so rude , Mumsnet is a platform where a large section of society are invited to share their opinions . Because my opinion is not the same as yours , you resort to nastiness.[/quote]
If you've been living in a cave over the last year fine. Otherwise there are some pretty compelling reasons why it wasn't a good idea for everyone to just get it last year before vaccines were available.

If you make daft remarks, expect daft replies.

shrugs

Kind of fed up of people reconstructing history.

Beekindbeehumble · 10/12/2021 13:49

Went through my child’s school in October, nearly every child has had it in that class. Before Omicron.

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 10/12/2021 13:58

I thought @RedToothBrush's reply was pretty mild actually, not to mention funny Grin

I know anecdote does not = data, but I'm double jabbed and currently on day 6 of Covid - chest pains, utter exhaustion and brain fog. I dread to think what I would have been like if I'd got it before the jab.

Thanks to the jabs, there are almost certainly tens of thousands of people walking around now who would otherwise have died of Covid. Nobody should need this explaining to them.

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 10/12/2021 14:07

*Tens of thousands of people in the UK, I mean. Who knows how many worldwide.

frasersmummy · 10/12/2021 14:21

In scotland NS has just said this :
"From tomorrow, our advice will be that all household contacts of ANY confirmed Covid case should isolate for 10 days, regardless of vaccination status, and even if they initially get a negative PCR test."

Thats going to have a huge impact on schools up here .. they may as well stop early for christmas.

Piggywaspushed · 10/12/2021 14:47

@SuperHeroSweepStake

Yes, fairly high rates in our school.

I'm quite happy my children have had it. Give them some natural immunity and stop me thinking when is it our turn? It was very mild for them and for most of their classmates as far as I know.

And the adults?
Incognito22333 · 10/12/2021 14:47

So in Scotland NS wants people to voluntarily take their kids out of school to not miss Christmas? Because she doesn’t want to be the one to close schools herself. No politicians wants to close schools again and won’t go there but will strongly encourage parents to not send their kids in?

Nowayoutonlydown · 10/12/2021 15:01

50% of DDs y9 year group off. School is just getting on with it as best they can.
What can they really do, if the schools shut down MH problems become an issue and the vulnerable kids are not overlooked. I know that the schools still remain open for KW children and those on care plans, but still children fall through the gaps.

Fucked if they close, fucked if they don't.

herecomesthsun · 10/12/2021 15:12

@frasersmummy

In scotland NS has just said this : "From tomorrow, our advice will be that all household contacts of ANY confirmed Covid case should isolate for 10 days, regardless of vaccination status, and even if they initially get a negative PCR test."

Thats going to have a huge impact on schools up here .. they may as well stop early for christmas.

That is actually sensible and humane however, especially in the run up to Christmas and considering the potential for spreading the new variant to older people over the holiday.
Drumshambo · 10/12/2021 15:15

They should just close the schools. It's ridiculous that they are still open!

HailAdrian · 10/12/2021 15:19

@Drumshambo

They should just close the schools. It's ridiculous that they are still open!
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Warhertisuff · 10/12/2021 15:56

@Piggywaspushed

  • SuperHeroSweepStake Yes, fairly high rates in our school.

I'm quite happy my children have had it. Give them some natural immunity and stop me thinking when is it our turn? It was very mild for them and for most of their classmates as far as I know.

And the adults?*

Well, adults are double or tripled jabbed (unless they've chosen not to be).

Warhertisuff · 10/12/2021 16:11

@TheScenicWay

In London. Delta ripped through ds school this time last year and now again though I don’t know which variant. Lots of kids off and restrictions. Hardly any infections inbetween though.
Delta wasn't around this time last year... Alpha was just hitting though.
Itisasecret · 10/12/2021 16:14

There is nothing like the cognitive dissonance of parents who seem to have ALL day and night and weekends to spend posting on mumsnet. OP, nearly 60k cases today would say you are bang on. As is anyone else in the actual real world.

Piggywaspushed · 10/12/2021 16:17

Still off if they catch it though warhertistuff. Massively disruptive to learning. Seems not to bother many on MN, oddly. Some adults are unpleasantly ill despite jabs and therefore are off for longer, some long term. We are averaging 15 to 25 staff off per day since half term.

VikingOnTheFridge · 10/12/2021 16:34

@frasersmummy

In scotland NS has just said this : "From tomorrow, our advice will be that all household contacts of ANY confirmed Covid case should isolate for 10 days, regardless of vaccination status, and even if they initially get a negative PCR test."

Thats going to have a huge impact on schools up here .. they may as well stop early for christmas.

It's interesting she says advice. Does that mean it's going to be guidance rather than law? I appreciate schools would probably follow advice, just thinking of impact on things like supply chains if all Omicron contacts were isolating.
KangSaeByeok · 10/12/2021 16:53

@Drumshambo

They should just close the schools. It's ridiculous that they are still open!
What about kids like Arthur Labinjo-Hughes @Drumshambo? Those kids who lose that safety net of being outside of their abusive home and have a chance of being on someone's radar? Do they count?
Waxonwaxoff0 · 10/12/2021 17:04

@Drumshambo

They should just close the schools. It's ridiculous that they are still open!
Closing them is ridiculous.
MarshaBradyo · 10/12/2021 17:06

@Drumshambo

They should just close the schools. It's ridiculous that they are still open!
Crazy no thanks.
Waxonwaxoff0 · 10/12/2021 17:07

@Piggywaspushed

Still off if they catch it though warhertistuff. Massively disruptive to learning. Seems not to bother many on MN, oddly. Some adults are unpleasantly ill despite jabs and therefore are off for longer, some long term. We are averaging 15 to 25 staff off per day since half term.
Really? I don't understand that. I work in a factory, about 40 of us have had Covid at last count. We all did our 10 days isolation, then back to work. Why are there staff off constantly at schools?
Piggywaspushed · 10/12/2021 17:16

What do you mean?

2.5% of the teaching workforce was off with confirmed covid a couple of Thursday's ago. That's a lot. And far more than normal

I don't know how many people your factory employs but, since half term 15 odd people off every day in my school (each for at least 10 days) is perfectly normal. Some staff in this have been off for childcare reasons. In total , I think 30 - 40 staff have had covid, some more have been off for a couple of days awaiting PCRs , and another cluster have had childcare, combined sometimes then with their own covid case afterwards.

Some of our staff have been off for more than 10 days. I was ill for 6 weeks.

It has eventually been admitted (but buried somewhere) that education staff are catching covid in higher numbers than other workers.

Nellodee · 10/12/2021 17:20

In a factory, you work on a production line side by side with your other workers. You will probably infect each other.in a school, teachers do not work in the same room as each other and are much less likely too pass it from teacher to teacher. The rate at which teachers will get it is much more staggered. Also in a school, every lesson needs covering, you can't teach more students by working harder or faster.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 10/12/2021 17:20

@Piggywaspushed

What do you mean?

2.5% of the teaching workforce was off with confirmed covid a couple of Thursday's ago. That's a lot. And far more than normal

I don't know how many people your factory employs but, since half term 15 odd people off every day in my school (each for at least 10 days) is perfectly normal. Some staff in this have been off for childcare reasons. In total , I think 30 - 40 staff have had covid, some more have been off for a couple of days awaiting PCRs , and another cluster have had childcare, combined sometimes then with their own covid case afterwards.

Some of our staff have been off for more than 10 days. I was ill for 6 weeks.

It has eventually been admitted (but buried somewhere) that education staff are catching covid in higher numbers than other workers.

I'm just surprised at the amount of numbers that need more than 10 days off, it's not my experience. I think there's only been 2 people at my place that have needed longer than 10 days, one was in ICU, unvaccinated. But the childcare thing explains it, not many people I work with have young kids.