Quarantine - unvaccinated but have antibodies

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I am unvaccinated and had Covid a month ago. I was tested for, and have, antibodies. I have been in contact with someone who has just tested positive and told I must isolate for ten days. This does not seem logical to me as the antibody test result reads to me as though I would be a similar risk to someone who had the vaccine, who would not need to quarantine.

I do not intend for this to be about whether or not I should have been vaccinated, but why I need to quarantine, having so recently had the virus and confirmed antibodies. I would most certainly not want to put anyone at risk through my decisions, but genuinely do not understand why I have to quarantine now (I realise it's the rules, but don't see why my natural immunity is not recognised).

Are you embarrassed by your unvaccinated status?

I only ask because why else name change just for this thread?

@MissCrowley

I'm half jabbed and I think this js bollocks OP. The scientists have said immunity from having the virus is apparently more effective than the vaccines. I'm having the vaccines because my mental health spiralled the first time Covid was in my house (DD had it) I had been advised to not have it due to medical reasons until they could be absolutely sure it was safe. I couldn't wait that long.

The whole thing is getting on my absolute tits now. The constant fear and panic. I no longer read the news or watch it.

Me too. I'm still unwell from my second jab back in July so I don't want to have a booster but I worry I'll be excluded from society.

You know the solution to frequent isolations though ... get vaccinated. If not for yourself, the evidence so far coming out of South Africa is fully vaccinated and boosted are quite protected and assuming you are British, we the tax payers pick up your healthcare costs

@MrsFin

Just have the bloody vaccine like the rest of us.

Yes but it's OK if you have it and your fine. I'm double jabbed and still suffering from horrible side effects and am chronically unwell because of it. I can't put myself through having a booster so does that mean I'll also be getting a load of vitriol for being 'anti vax'? People should have a right to choose what they put in their body. Never have I known a time when your medical status is subject to such scrutiny and judgement. I can't believe I may end up being excluded from large parts of society because I won't have a booster from a vaccine that has made me chronically unwell.

Omicron has changed things. Immunity via previous infection doesn't work as well as immunity as a result of vaccination and booster.

So you're not as protected as those who've been vaccinated.

If you've been in contact with someone who has the Omicron variant, you have to
isolate for 10 days, even if fully vaccinated.

there most def. isnt a good scientific explanation but as we have seen countries are often fairly "unique" in how they are trying to manage the pandemic and reduce spread and to "encourage" their citizens to accept the vaccine. Personally I prefer carrots rather than sticks! In Germany, despite the new ban on the unvaxxed entering shops etc, the recently-COVID-recovered are excluded from this ban ....so this now creates a perverse incentive for people to catch Covid which is actually an anti-health consequence. It is very hard at the moment as they are still trying to balance the health of the population versus the rights of the individual to self-determination but it may take until spring/summer for the balance to feel fairer for those who choose not to have a vaccine.

If it wasn't the rule, we'd have to test everyone who is unvaccinated and been exposed to Covid to determine whether they have antibodies or not and that would then determine whether they have to isolate or not. I don't think that's a particularly workable system so a blanket rule about vaccination status is much more efficient.

No, it's completely illogical in that your risk level is the same as (or lower than) a vaccinated person's.

I expect the real reason is that they're hoping that some people in your situation will find the illogical law inconvenient enough that they decide to get vaccinated. I don't agree with this, but the 'it's the RULES! Follow them even if they make no sense!' types will lap it up.

Are you looking for a get out clause? There isn't one!

I too have had Covid AND I am vaccinated, so potentially more antibofies than you, but I will still have to isolate if need be. This is about the whole of society, not individual wants.

I'm not special nor asking for special staus.

It doesn’t make any actual, logical sense, as it’s a political decision, rather than a scientific one. Either because of the logistics of checking antibodies or previous infection status, or as pressure to get vaccinated.

flipflop76 I’m so sorry to hear you’ve been unwell since your jab. No wonder you’re reticent about getting a booster. DH’s in a similar position and is in a real quandary. Do you mind me asking what your symptoms have been?

I'm double jabbed and still suffering from horrible side effects and am chronically unwell because of it.

What people don't seem to understand is that the side effects and chronic illness are much worse from having Covid than from having the vaccine.

MrsFin what about those who have had covid said it was no worse than a cold but had extreme side effects from the jab?

@flipflop76

I am in the same position as you

Yanbu it’s nonsensical

@MrsFin

I'm double jabbed and still suffering from horrible side effects and am chronically unwell because of it.

What people don't seem to understand is that the side effects and chronic illness are much worse from having Covid than from having the vaccine.

Wtf!!!! I'm too unwell to work and struggle to look after my toddler but I should carry on getting jabbed and more unwell?!! Not everyone has chronic illness after covid. I'm bloody lost for words. The way I feel at the moment I'd rather die anyway than live like this for the rest of my life.

@Nerdygirl

It’s completely illogical , other countries recognise recovery. This is just to coerce you into getting vaccinated . Why others simply row the line and don’t actually question the rationale amazes me

100%

[quote NoelFieldingsShirt]@flipflop76

I am in the same position as you [/quote]
So sorry xx

@MissCrowley

I'm half jabbed and I think this js bollocks OP. The scientists have said immunity from having the virus is apparently more effective than the vaccines. I'm having the vaccines because my mental health spiralled the first time Covid was in my house (DD had it) I had been advised to not have it due to medical reasons until they could be absolutely sure it was safe. I couldn't wait that long.

The whole thing is getting on my absolute tits now. The constant fear and panic. I no longer read the news or watch it.

That's funny because I have read from credible sources that natural immunity is unpredictable. Sometimes antibodies wane quickly. I believe vaccinated immunity is better than relying on natural infection. If you have had an infection plus a vaccine it's better than just a vaccine. Anyway it's a shame OP but I'm afraid you have to serve your time.

Yanbu

We all need to question rules, not just blindly follow them. In your case the rules don’t make any sense. They are discriminatory

OP, you don't say what the reason is for not getting vaccinated, sorry if I've missed it. If the reason is medical, when talking to NHS T&T, can't you say that you're not able to get vaccinated for medical reasons? It says loud and clear on gov.uk's website that you don't have to self-isolate if you cannot get vaccinated for medical reasons. No further explanation or details about this is given on the website and it does NOT say you need medical exemption.

@perfectSmiles3

OP, you don't say what the reason is for not getting vaccinated, sorry if I've missed it. If the reason is medical, when talking to NHS T&T, can't you say that you're not able to get vaccinated for medical reasons? It says loud and clear on gov.uk's website that you don't have to self-isolate if you cannot get vaccinated for medical reasons. No further explanation or details about this is given on the website and it does NOT say you need medical exemption.

This is NOT true if you have been in contact with someone with Omicron- everyone has to isolate in that case regardless.

@RockingMyFiftiesNot
I haven't read the whole thread but it doesn't look like the OP is talking about an omicron case

Not everyone has chronic illness after covid.

And majority of people not everyone has chronic illness after the vaccine? How do you know it's as a result of the vaccine?

[quote scottishtablet23]@RockingMyFiftiesNot
I haven't read the whole thread but it doesn't look like the OP is talking about an omicron case[/quote]
She didn't say it's not Omicroneither. But either way, a lot of people don't know about the different rules, so worth posting I thought.