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Are many people getting covid who've had recent boosters?

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greystripedpajamas · 17/11/2021 17:48

Just curious really - not heard much about their effect on numbers yet.

I had my booster toward the beginning of October and ds has got covid in the house now. Hoping it'll reduce my chances of catching it!

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MeetMeAtOurSpot · 17/11/2021 17:51

I know 2 people who have had their 3rd vaccine who have recently tested positive. Not overly ill though which is good.

Tanfastic · 17/11/2021 18:26

I know one person who caught it but it was only a week after and they only had cold symptoms.

Cheermonger · 17/11/2021 18:28

Me! I had my booster the week before a positive PCR. I’m out of isolation on Sunday and thankfully haven’t suffered too badly so far

Sockwomble · 17/11/2021 18:44

My friend had it for the second time 3 weeks after her booster. Caught off a family member and only knew because of contact testing.

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greystripedpajamas · 17/11/2021 22:36

Hopefully the booster gives an even milder case then!

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JassyRadlett · 17/11/2021 22:39

From ONS surveillance report.

Are many people getting covid who've had recent boosters?

Whathefisgoingon · 18/11/2021 09:31

I do not understand how on mumsnet alone there as lots of people who have supposedly caught covid after a booster. The boosters are meant to be almost 100% effective against symptomatic disease.

JassyRadlett · 18/11/2021 10:07

@Whathefisgoingon

I do not understand how on mumsnet alone there as lots of people who have supposedly caught covid after a booster. The boosters are meant to be almost 100% effective against symptomatic disease.

Just as with other vaccines it takes a few weeks to get to full effectiveness. And I thought it was more like 95% - so that’s still five in every hundred. That’s still a lot of people.

Given we’ve not been doing boosters long, and circulating virus have been really quite high in that period, I’m not sure it’s all that surprising?

I would of course never dream of doubting the veracity of anyone posting on Mumsnet.

Coldpressed · 18/11/2021 10:39

More than 10k booster breakthroughs in Israel so far

Whyamistilltired · 18/11/2021 10:43

I do not understand how on mumsnet alone there as lots of people who have supposedly caught covid after a booster. The boosters are meant to be almost 100% effective against symptomatic disease.

You answered it yourself, it's not 100% effective and you have hundreds of thousands of people reading this, not like thinking of your own road and how many have it out of a couple of hundred say.

JassyRadlett · 18/11/2021 10:55

@Coldpressed

More than 10k booster breakthroughs in Israel so far

I think over 4 million have now had a booster?

oneglassandpuzzled · 18/11/2021 11:35

Thanks @JassyRadlett for that graph. It explains why my 83-year-old mother who has a very poor immune system didn’t catch COVID from us when she stayed the weekend just as we were unwittingly brewing the infection. She, and our medical student daughter, had had boosters over three weeks earlier. We were just about to have ours.

SinisterBumFacedCat · 18/11/2021 11:49

I had my booster 1 month ago. DH and DS currently have COVID, DH is on day 9 and having a terrible time, he is double vaccinated but that was over 6 months ago, he was actually meant to have his booster this week. I am still ok, negative LFT yesterday. Right now I would say the booster works!

Sockwomble · 18/11/2021 12:04

"I do not understand how on mumsnet alone there as lots of people who have supposedly caught covid after a booster."

The person I know who caught it after the booster caught it from her child who was projectile vomiting so I am not suprised about that one.

Tiredoftiers · 18/11/2021 12:04

I tested positive for covid 4 weeks after having my booster, I was doing daily lateral flows cause I felt I was brewing something. I'm just unlucky. I've never felt hugely unwell, its just lingering which is now frustrating. I had none of the classic symptoms and was initially counted as an asymptomatic case. My initial symptoms were very much classic cold symptoms.
I saw the statistics quoted of being 94% effective against symptomatic disease, that's hugely effective and will cut spread so much. It still means that 6 out of every 100 will have symptomatic illness.

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greystripedpajamas · 18/11/2021 13:43

Does that statistic mean that for every 100 covid positive patients, 94 will be asymptomatic? And 6 will have symptoms of a variety of severity? That's amazing!

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JassyRadlett · 18/11/2021 14:21

Does that statistic mean that for every 100 covid positive patients, 94 will be asymptomatic? And 6 will have symptoms of a variety of severity? That's amazing!

No, it means that no infection or zero symptoms, compared to being unvaccinated.

The ONS surveillance figures, which are similar, are based on all infections, not just symptomatic.

PrincessNutNuts · 18/11/2021 14:50

If you look at this chart you can see that the protection against Delta in all vaccinated age groups was falling away.

Guess which two age groups have been getting boosters?

nordica · 18/11/2021 14:59

@Whathefisgoingon

I do not understand how on mumsnet alone there as lots of people who have supposedly caught covid after a booster. The boosters are meant to be almost 100% effective against symptomatic disease.

There also seems to be lots on here who've caught covid for the 2nd time after having covid last year and then getting fully vaccinated (2 jabs). Reinfections are still rare according to statistics so it's surprising.

piscis · 18/11/2021 23:17

I had my booster 4-5 weeks ago (I don’t remember the exact date) and I got my positive result Monday last week.
Boosters effective 100% against symptomatic disease? Link please!
I’d say the booster is just because the efficacy weans off, so you need a booster, it doesnt increase efficacy at all.

Sebastianthecoo · 18/11/2021 23:32

I’m about 4/5 weeks post booster and 2 of my DC currently have very symptomatic Covid (I’ve been coughed over much more by them than any patient) and I’m still negative with no symptoms. Hoping it stays that way with 3 days of their isolation left.

JassyRadlett · 18/11/2021 23:43

Boosters effective 100% against symptomatic disease? Link please!

They’re not, as has already been explained on this thread. Effectiveness looks to be around 95%, which aligns with trial efficacy.

I’d say the booster is just because the efficacy weans off, so you need a booster, it doesnt increase efficacy at all.

As also detailed upthread, the booster provides greater protection against infection than two doses ever did, before any waning. From early trial subjects, data out of Israel and other measures, scientists are suggesting that there is cause to believe the protection will also last longer.

rubydoobydoo · 18/11/2021 23:48

Had my booster at the beginning of October and never had covid. I've been pretty careful throughout due to an underlying medical condition. Went to a pretty packed nightclub on Friday for the first time since this whole thing started and fingers crossed still nothing yet (been doing LFTs to be on the safe side!).

dabbydeedoo · 19/11/2021 00:10

@Whathefisgoingon

I do not understand how on mumsnet alone there as lots of people who have supposedly caught covid after a booster. The boosters are meant to be almost 100% effective against symptomatic disease.

But not necessarily against getting a positive test. Plenty of people are testing positive and never really developing any symptoms at all now. I don't think there's really been much research on the odds of testing positive after exposure when fully vaccinated. The focus is only on symptomatic illness.

I think testing will be massively scaled down soon because what's the point, really? Covid is everywhere. Everyone will be exposed to it, all the time. I can see maybe needing a negative PCR to go into hospital or be around vulnerable people, but apart from that, what purpose is it going to serve? We can't infinitely keep quarantining people for two weeks because they tested positive but aren't actually sick. It just doesn't seem at all sustainable and it's really bad for mental health.

I think the focus soon will be on basically not being stupid if you're sick, e.g. not going to work or out to a bar with any cold or flu symptoms. It should become socially unacceptable to be out and about while visibly sick, or at a minimum to wear a mask if you are, just like people have been doing in Asia for decades now. I think they should properly promote good hygiene - no more hand shaking, no spitting, no gross behaviour like blowing your nose into a tissue and putting the tissue onto your desk at work, no sharing drinks with friends to try. Just basic common sense things that would cut transmission of pretty much any virus.

JassyRadlett · 19/11/2021 00:14

I don't think there's really been much research on the odds of testing positive after exposure when fully vaccinated. The focus is only on symptomatic illness.

REACT and ONS work on population samples and detectable infection, rather than symptomatic illness, and give us an excellent time series. ONS findings on boosters align fairly closely to the trial data.

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