Family gathering - all vaccinated except 1

[Jungfraujoch]

My 18 yr old nephew unvaccinated. He is in contact with general public everyday, sometimes in their houses, goes to the gym. My parents are mid 80’s, jabbed incl. boosters but vulnerable - DM diabetes, pacemaker, Alzheimers. DF is her main carer. Sister in law also vulnerable, I have mild asthma. Overreaction to say we don’t want to mix?

Do you know that the vaccine doesn't prevent catching and passing on covid?

I'm vaccinated and think that people should be vaccinated if there are no medical reasons not to.

But I wouldn't exclude one person and cause a whole load of drama over one person not being vaccinated when it offers no protection from catching it, and you could just ask them to do a test just before the gathering

@avvemarriia

Do you know that the vaccine doesn't prevent catching and passing on covid?

I'm vaccinated and think that people should be vaccinated if there are no medical reasons not to.

But I wouldn't exclude one person and cause a whole load of drama over one person not being vaccinated when it offers no protection from catching it, and you could just ask them to do a test just before the gathering

It looks like you are bullying someone because you don't agree with their choice and dressing it up like you are trying to protect people. The people who are vaccinated are protected, it's the individual who isn't vaccinated that is putting themselves at risk.

@BoomChicka

It wouldn't occur to me to ask anyone's vaccination status never mind exclude them for it. I find it genuinely sad that this is ruling your family like this.

Totally agree.

"I just don't get how vaccinated people blame unvaccinated for their vaccine not protecting them? Where is the logic? If you are all vaccinated, what are you afraid of?
I am vaccinated, btw, I am not antivax."

"boggles my mind too. I get grief for not being vaccinated with a vaccine that the vaccinated don't trust."

This is all so ridiculous. Families tearing themselves apart. I don't get it either. There is a vaccine. There are now boosters. Stop tearing your families apart. You either trust the jab or you don't.

I'm jabbed as are my older parents, we will all be spending Christmas together along with my unvaccinated DB and SIL and all of our unvaccinated DC. No judgements.

Either trust the jab or don't. Get on with your lives.

OP, you say your 18 year old relative has stated he will willingly get vaccinated next year so he can go on holiday with his friends - but he is not prepared to do it now to reassure his vulnerable and nervous grandparents?
That sounds like a selfish inconsiderate little shit, to me. His mates and holiday obviously mean more to him than his grandparents' peace of mind.

@Babdoc
Or maybe waiting an additional 12 months for further studies to be done on the vaccines is a sensible thing for a (presumably) healthy 18 year old to do, an 18 year old who is at extremely little risk of covid, an 18 year old who wouldn’t be expected to get the flu jag to visit his grandparents…

I agree with the suggestions of taking a test before visiting - I do think if you’re in contact with vulnerable individuals you should be doing this regularly regardless of if you’ve been vaccinated or not or has covid or not.

@ThePoisonousMushroom

If you had an 11 year old in the family would you refuse to mix with them, or is it just because he’s chosen not to be vaccinated?

Exactly this.

Tell him to get a PCR beforehand?

That’s what we do and we are fully vaccinated.

Including five year old DD….

I would weigh up who I invited

Elderly vaccinated parents or 18yo unvaccinated nephew with a high risk lifestyle; who lives 200 miles away so I rarely see....

Having the vaccination has little bearing on transmission. I was listening to Radio 4 yesterday where the doctor actually acknowledged the vaccine had been really disappointing in this regard. So your nephew coming for Christmas would have no impact on your parents whatsoever.

Has everyone eligible had their booster? That would be a far better thing to concentrate on.

high risk life style

😂😂😂

As the only person unvaccinated he is at the greatest risk of becoming seriously ill.

This isn't true. An unvaccinated 18yo is at lower risk of becoming seriously ill than a fully vaccinated 80yo. Because the risk of covid to an 18yo is incredibly low.

I have 4 colleagues off work at the moment. All vaccinated, all tested positive. One caught it off her vaccinated DH and passed it onto 3 of her colleagues.

The vaccine does not completely prevent transmission. It also doesn't completely prevent serious illness, hospitalisation and death. It does, however, significantly reduce those things.

@ChloeCrocodile I think your wrong about the vaccine significantly reducing transmission. They hoped that would be the case but sadly it hasn’t proved to be true.