Family gathering - all vaccinated except 1

[Jungfraujoch]

My 18 yr old nephew unvaccinated. He is in contact with general public everyday, sometimes in their houses, goes to the gym. My parents are mid 80’s, jabbed incl. boosters but vulnerable - DM diabetes, pacemaker, Alzheimers. DF is her main carer. Sister in law also vulnerable, I have mild asthma. Overreaction to say we don’t want to mix?

Yes very much so. Why don't you all just test rather than excluding him. Just because you are vaccinated is no guarantee that one of you isn't infectious with Covid.

Huge overreaction! It would be reasonable however to suggest that everyone do a LFT that morning. No one can pass on anything they don't have in the first place!
I appreciate your not normally going out your way to interact with people unvaccinated but the reality is your probably having these interactions unknowingly every day. The person who serves you at the supermarket checkout, the bar tender or waiter of your local pub or restaurant, the people sitting at the next table all could be unvaccinated and you wouldn't know about it.

I understand your concern.

I would say everyone does a test before coming but he should do one 5 days in row before attending. If he's not willing to do that then he shouldn't be there

Oh dear... is this what it has come too?

Total over reaction.

Are people really keeping tabs on who's vaccinated? Unless you're not leaving the house you'll be mixing with unvaccinated people regularly anyway.

Do you not think the vaccinations are effective at preventing death and hospitalisation?

You your parents can still catch covid from anywhere. People who are not vaccinated don't carry covid with them you really are being over cautious and saying the lad doesn't "care" about his grandparents.

Yes I’d say it was an overreaction. This wouldn’t bother me at all, but then I have an unvaccinated child who spends everyday mixing with other unvaccinated children (because she’s 2).

Will you take this strategy forever shun prolonged indoor contact with known unvacc'd people what if their vaccine is a few years old, when will it expire in your mind, or if they had one of the much less effective vaccines?

You only have to live with your own decisions. I would want a consistent logic to take forward in deciding what to do rather than a vague "I don't feel like this is safe and in future I don't know how I'll decide what feels safe, either."

Your parents are elderly and vulnerable, so it makes sense that all of you get tested before seeing them. Being vaccinated does not mean you are not carrying the virus.

Anyone can carry it, vaccinated or not, so it makes no difference tbh

Being vaccinated reduces your chance of getting covid, you dont pass on what you havent got. It does make sense foryou all to test but I wouldnt want toknowingly be around anyone so selfish and stupid. I'm not choosing to mix with the unvaccinated often - I know our local crazies and avoid them.

ICUs are still full of the unvaccinated, they havent all had it yet.

@alreadytaken

Being vaccinated reduces your chance of getting covid, you dont pass on what you havent got. It does make sense foryou all to test but I wouldnt want toknowingly be around anyone so selfish and stupid. I'm not choosing to mix with the unvaccinated often - I know our local crazies and avoid them.

ICUs are still full of the unvaccinated, they havent all had it yet.

There is a big difference between avoiding people due to risk, or avoiding people due to their medical choices. The latter makes you sound like an ass tbh.

I’m going to assume you’re worried that your nephew is going to catch Covid off one of you. As the only person unvaccinated he is at the greatest risk of becoming seriously ill.
Any one of you could be infected. Those of you who are vaccinated may not even know.

You could always put him in the shed and yell 'shame' at regular intervals. I'm sure shunning and judgement are now recommended

@GiveMeNovocain

You could always put him in the shed and yell 'shame' at regular intervals. I'm sure shunning and judgement are now recommended

Shunning and judgement kill covid. Fact.

Making a choice not to be vaccinated makes you a selfish idiot as well as a health risk. Complaining about that just makes you one of the selfish idiots.

@alreadytaken

Making a choice not to be vaccinated makes you a selfish idiot as well as a health risk. Complaining about that just makes you one of the selfish idiots.

There are a load of reasons why someone may not be vaccinated. Some are a simple case of them being scared of side effects, severe health anxiety, a bad previous reaction, or the needle it is delivered with. Should they be shunned? Are they selfish for looking out for their mental health?

@alreadytaken

Making a choice not to be vaccinated makes you a selfish idiot as well as a health risk. Complaining about that just makes you one of the selfish idiots.

Yes. Shun him Or be like me and decide that vaccines protect the people who've had them 🤷‍♀️ But shunning is probably less if a mental shift

It wouldn't occur to me to ask anyone's vaccination status never mind exclude them for it. I find it genuinely sad that this is ruling your family like this.

@BoomChicka

It wouldn't occur to me to ask anyone's vaccination status never mind exclude them for it. I find it genuinely sad that this is ruling your family like this.

I agree. What a horrible way to live life.

@LalaLopsie

Educate yourself, vaccinated people are just as likely to spread the virus as non vaccinated. So called breakthrough infections are very common now in double vaccinated people. The vaccines protect you from not getting very ill, you can still get infected and infect others. Can't believe people are still confused!

THEY ARE NOT - STOP POSTING THIS

[quote bumbleymummy]@Jungfraujoch

“ Vaccination reduces the risk of delta variant infection and accelerates viral clearance. Nonetheless, fully vaccinated individuals with breakthrough infections have peak viral load similar to unvaccinated cases and can efficiently transmit infection in household settings, including to fully vaccinated contacts.”

www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00648-4/fulltext[/quote]
FFS Yes - if they get it, but they're considerably less likely to get it.

Yeah shun your nephew. Don't be surprised if his mum doesn't want to know you after that.

THEY ARE NOT - STOP POSTING THIS

Hmm. I have 4 colleagues off work at the moment. All vaccinated, all tested positive.
One caught it off her vaccinated DH and passed it onto 3 of her colleagues.
Being vaccinated doesn’t mean you can’t catch it and pass it on.