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Gov says 43000 false covid test results is not cause of suge - Bollocks

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trumpisagit · 26/10/2021 06:14

www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2021/oct/25/false-covid-test-results-not-cause-of-surge-south-west-england-says-no-10

I cannot believe they can get away with saying this!
Children in my DC classes, scout leaders, DH work colleagues all had positive LFTs and neg Pcrs. Following the advice they went back to school, work, normal life.
Our local rates have shot up in a very short time period to 1800 per 100 000.
Yes SW rates have stayed low through the pandemic but the speed of the rise can only be blamed on the pcr fiasco.
I am livid that they think they can get away with this, with no apologies or explanation.

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Iggly · 26/10/2021 07:29

I agree.

They’re being deliberately obtuse though by suggesting that those who originally tested negative incorrectly won’t be positive now so it’s not them.

They’re ignoring the fact that all of these people would have carried on as normal (as we even saw posters on MN sending kids back to school) - and they would have spread the virus and resulted in increased cases. Instead of isolating.

It’s absolutely disgraceful.

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trumpisagit · 26/10/2021 07:41

Why are the gov standing up for a private laboratory, and not throwing them under the bus?
Why don't we yet know what went wrong to cause 43000 false negative tests?
Without wishing to be too dramatic people will have died who wouldn't have otherwise.
There should be a proper investigation.

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rrhuth · 26/10/2021 07:46

This government lie, beyond anything we've ever seen before, they are completely corrupt.

What else is there to say?

I would just encourage everyone to think carefully and try to vote for anyone else whenever the opportunity arises. This is a whole other level from ordinary politics.

Timeforabiscuit · 26/10/2021 07:49

Agreed, I want to know what actually happened and whether it could happen at other labs.

ssd · 26/10/2021 07:49

"Why are the gov standing up for a private laboratory, and not throwing them under the bus?"

You've answered yourself there. This is a tory government remember.

ssd · 26/10/2021 07:50

Wonder who has connections to whoever owns the lab?

rrhuth · 26/10/2021 07:51

@ssd

Wonder who has connections to whoever owns the lab?
Yes quite Angry

We need to know what happened, to ensure it can't happen again.

CarrieBlue · 26/10/2021 07:54

Why are the gov standing up for a private laboratory, and not throwing them under the bus?

Protecting their friends who will make suitably large donations to the party/individual minister in return.

Whinge · 26/10/2021 07:56

@Timeforabiscuit

Agreed, I want to know what actually happened and whether it could happen at other labs.
I'd also like to know this. There have been plenty of other people in different areas recieving positive LFT but negative PCRs. I wonder if it's a more widespread problem, and the South West was just so obvious they had no other option to make it public.
KateTheEighth · 26/10/2021 07:57

You've got to give the government credit - they do a great job of gaslighting us

This makes me so angry. It's clear as day what happened but, as with so many things this government does, it's deny, bluster and ignore

makelovenotpetrol · 26/10/2021 07:59

I think they're stupidly attempting to pass it off as not a big deal because it only affected 43000 tests which in the scheme of things isn't a lot compared to how many are done a day.

They're hoping we're somehow not going to link the fact that those 43000 people are going to have passed it onto a staggeringly higher number of people.

Why they think they can get away with this I don't know.

Iggly · 26/10/2021 08:02

@makelovenotpetrol

I think they're stupidly attempting to pass it off as not a big deal because it only affected 43000 tests which in the scheme of things isn't a lot compared to how many are done a day.

They're hoping we're somehow not going to link the fact that those 43000 people are going to have passed it onto a staggeringly higher number of people.

Why they think they can get away with this I don't know.

43,000 in one area is a huge number within the context of daily positive cases 😬
candycane222 · 26/10/2021 08:02

Rates were not low in Bristol at all, they have been high many times through the pandemic. And yeah, my double-jabbed dc and their flatmate - in Bristol - have both suddenly got Covid now. Just before they had been due to go on holiday as well. So it costing them cash as well as massive inconvenience to their employers, and misery to them. Makes me mad that they think we are stupid enough to swallow this Angry

Though of course a lot of people probably will ....

ssd · 26/10/2021 08:03

@makelovenotpetrol

I think they're stupidly attempting to pass it off as not a big deal because it only affected 43000 tests which in the scheme of things isn't a lot compared to how many are done a day.

They're hoping we're somehow not going to link the fact that those 43000 people are going to have passed it onto a staggeringly higher number of people.

Why they think they can get away with this I don't know.

Because they have a large majority and they get away with everything. And people still vote for them.
gogohm · 26/10/2021 08:03

The results in the last week were inflated due to the mistakes the week before. We do have high residual rates though even once that is factored in in certain age groups. According to local gp the main transmission route is 10-16 year olds currently.

gogohm · 26/10/2021 08:04

I'm in the affected area

ViceLikeBlip · 26/10/2021 08:05

This was definitely entirely responsible for our ridiculous surge in Somerset. But I don't know whether that's had a significant impact on the nationwide numbers.

SilverGlitterBaubles · 26/10/2021 08:07

DH tested positive LF and PCR, I developed symptoms several positive LF and negative PCR also lost taste and smell. Ignored PCR results and isolated accordingly I have no doubt that I had bloody Covid. I think if either tests are positive and you have symptoms and/ or circumstances that make it highly likely that you have Covid just err on the side of caution and isolate.

didireallysaythat · 26/10/2021 08:08

There was a great article on radio4's inside science which talked through the implications of this (I.e. how many each week wrongly thought ght they were negative, how many they will have infected with an R=1, how many those will have infected etc etc.). It reminded me what R>1 means and how many will have died because of a "bad lab". Yet it gets dismissed like it doesn't really matter. FFS.

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trumpisagit · 26/10/2021 08:10

@SilverGlitterBaubles well I agree, however that was not the advice from Public Health England and schools.
We had repeated letters from school saying if their pcr was negative they could come to school. Pcr over rides lft.
Therefore lots of children attended school with covid

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Schulte · 26/10/2021 08:19

Sadly, it’s just another in a long list of scandals. Ignorant, arrogant and incompetent government.

tumpymummy · 26/10/2021 08:31

They are not investigating because it's all their pals making money out of us. This makes me so angry. But what I really dont understand is why people keep on voting for a tory government.

TheVampiresWife · 26/10/2021 08:43

Suuure it's not Hmm

Gov says 43000 false covid test results is not cause of suge - Bollocks
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trumpisagit · 26/10/2021 08:47

Yes, that map tells the tale. In September the Bristol area was light coloured

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HarveySchlumpfenburger · 26/10/2021 09:40

@rrhuth

This government lie, beyond anything we've ever seen before, they are completely corrupt.

What else is there to say?

I would just encourage everyone to think carefully and try to vote for anyone else whenever the opportunity arises. This is a whole other level from ordinary politics.

Tbf, having watched nearly all of the briefings, I’m not convinced that all of the cabinet ministers understand how infectious diseases work.

Some of it is obvious bluster and gaslighting but I suspect some of them genuinely would struggle with the concept of what infectious people carrying on and infecting more people, who then carry on and infect more people would do to the numbers.

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