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Take up of vaccine in 12-15 yo is as low as 10%

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Mellowfruitfulnessy · 18/10/2021 12:47

Guardian story on the low take-up of vaccines in teens.

I had wondered if this issue would arise. All the (normally intelligent) teens I know are really anti-vax. Strong belief it renders you infertile. I guess a lot of this must be social media influencing.

Hardly anyone showed up for the vax clinic at dc school. In the end they made all the teens talk to the nurse but the take up was almost zero. This must be happening elsewhere too. Any other experiences? It’s really worrying and I don’t know how it will be addressed. I also wonder how it will impact families wanting to travel abroad next year.

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frozendaisy · 18/10/2021 15:23

@WitchBaby

Sounds like it was the ones in the top STEM sets who had it so the normally intelligent ones I guess!

Ha ha did you actually just say that? Aww those poor dim lower set children just don't know what's good for them, do they?

Just responding to the original post of (normally intelligent) ones abstaining. To balance the debate.

KrispyKale · 18/10/2021 15:26

Take up is far higher than that in Scotland. I guess if it's available quite a lot of kids will get it.

herecomesthsun · 18/10/2021 15:27

In the real world kids aren't actually being offered vaccines, you mean?

Despite the MHRA saying they were safe on June 4th and then kids supposedly being offered vaccines from the start of term?

And in the real world, even immunocompromised kids haven't been fully vaccinated and parents have barely been able to get one dose?

It's all spin?

herecomesthsun · 18/10/2021 15:28

Sorry I mean that the parents have barely been able to organise for their kids to have the first vaccine, that didn't come out very clearly.

Wakemeuuuup · 18/10/2021 15:32

@Geamhradh That's disgusting.

Anyway my son his home, he had his jab and there were no protests. He said a huge majority of the kids had it.

CeeJay81 · 18/10/2021 15:58

My son's got his next week, we're in Wales and they are doing it at the vaccination centres here, not in Schools. No idea what the take up is. I do wish they were going to be offered 2 like everyone else though.

Silverswirl · 18/10/2021 16:03

@BewareTheLibrarians

You think they haven’t considered the risk of myocarditis after covid???

Do they mention any long term complications post COVID such as myocarditis in their report? Do they make parents equally aware of this as they do then”potential long term risks” of the vaccine?

Oh and you have I suppose.

Yeah, I have. I didn’t really have a choice, given my son’s situation.

They will have scrutinised every aspect and angle for months! They are not just a bunch of randoms chatting during a coffee morning!

I’m sure they’re not a bunch of randoms. But given that the MHRA and CMO gave it the ok, and the JCVI didn’t bother to explain or mitigate for any long term complications of covid I’m happy to go with the CMO’s advice.

Why do people who don’t want their kids to have this vaccine get so angry that my son got ill with covid? I mean, sorry but it’s worse for him than it is for you

Because one swallow does not a summer make as the saying goes. Of course they will have considered the effects for covid not only on the heart but on every known complication to health of this specific age group. They still didn’t advise a roll out on medical grounds. Having the vaccine approved is a completely separate matter to it actually being advised for healthy teens.

MarshaBradyo · 18/10/2021 16:04

That is low.

Maybe walk in centres will help. Not sure

BewareTheLibrarians · 18/10/2021 16:11

Because one swallow does not a summer make as the saying goes.

True, and also apples to the very rare side effects of the vaccine, right? Or is that different, despite there being more evidence of harm from covid in children than from the vaccine?

SleeplessWB · 18/10/2021 16:13

We did them at school last Monday. About 60% of parents gave permission but not all kids got the jab as some had tested positive for covid too recently, and they ran out of time to vaccinate everyone. They have said they will come back to do the rest, but not when.

Pru24 · 18/10/2021 16:15

@BewareTheLibrarians

The JCVI doesn't explain or mitigate what the long term effects are because they don't know, like it says in the report! And they don't know because the kids they are vaccinating are the ones who will give them that data in years to come. It's not been trialed on children before they gave it out to them, the trial is the kids being vaccinated right now. And that is why they they said in YOUR screenshot, the health benefit is too small for them to support a national roll out of vaccines to children under the age of 18.

Here is another screenshot, taken from gov.com that clearly states at the bottom that the JCVI can not support a national rollout of the vaccine because the health benefits do not outweigh the risks.

Take up of vaccine in 12-15 yo is as low as 10%

BewareTheLibrarians · 18/10/2021 16:15

@MarshaBradyo

That is low.

Maybe walk in centres will help. Not sure

I think they would, but they’d have to be equally accessible for children considering school hours/parents’ work/distance. (My first vaccine was done in my town, my second was 20 miles away. It was ok for me, but not for getting kids there in the evening or for people who don’t drive.)

As long as there are enough clinics open at the right hours (evenings/weekends) then it should work, as long as there is also the option for vaccination in schools for those who can’t make it to walk in clinics.

yomellamoHelly · 18/10/2021 16:17

Part of the low uptake will be the fact that those that have had Covid in the last 90 days shouldn't have it. (That rules out a hell of a lot of kids in my school.)

ollyollyoxenfree · 18/10/2021 16:19

@Pru24

This is incorrect

The vaccine has gone through trials and been approved for 12-15 YOs.

The current roll out is not a "trial"

MaxiMini · 18/10/2021 16:30

@yomellamoHelly our consent forms say you can't have it if it's within 28 days of having Covid

BewareTheLibrarians · 18/10/2021 16:32

@Pru24

Thanks for your help, I think I’m getting there!

So the vaccine is not recommended because we don’t know the potential long term effects on children. Makes sense.

But not vaccinating, and letting kids catch covid even though we also don’t know the long term effects of covid on children (and the effects we do know can happen are not great, like organ damage) is fine because… it’s not a vaccine? Because the chances of harm are low, like the vaccine? There must be something?

To be fair, if you haven’t seen the effects of Mis-c after covid for eg, and you’ve only ever seen kids who don’t even notice they have it, it’s probably very hard to imagine how scary it is. I wouldn’t want any other kids to have to unnecessarily go through that.

Geamhradh · 18/10/2021 17:24

[quote Wakemeuuuup]@Geamhradh That's disgusting.

Anyway my son his home, he had his jab and there were no protests. He said a huge majority of the kids had it.[/quote]
and for your son.

Delatron · 18/10/2021 18:20

We’ve just had an email from our school announcing a catch up clinic at a stadium in a couple of days time. You fill in the school’s consent form then book an appointment at the stadium. So hopefully things are going to start speeding up now.

WombatChocolate · 18/10/2021 18:30

In our area, take-up has been high….over 80% have consented, but not everyone has had it yet because of supply.

We have just heard there are venues outside of school which will offer clinics over half term. Lots of those who consented and are still waiting will take that opportunity to get done, and also ensure any short term side effects happen out of school time. Some who didn’t get round to consenting will do so now, as the door is still open for them to consent.

It’s really good people have another option now too. I’d think we will see numbers rise rapidly amongst the jabbed 12-15s.

Greentime101 · 18/10/2021 18:56

Every local school here has had students with sleeves rolled up ready but nowhere near enough doses are being delivered - literally only enough to vaccinate a single year group - everyone else waiting for next delivery

WhatsWrongWithMyUsername · 18/10/2021 19:08

@yomellamoHelly

Part of the low uptake will be the fact that those that have had Covid in the last 90 days shouldn't have it. (That rules out a hell of a lot of kids in my school.)

Can you tell me where this advice is please? I was looking in the FAQs on the nhs and couldn’t find that info

WombatChocolate · 18/10/2021 19:22

I think it’s 28 days, not 90 days.

yomellamoHelly · 18/10/2021 19:23

Apologies, I've just looked up the docs that go with the vaccination. It's within four weeks that they can't have the jab...! Sorry. Still a fair few kids though.

CactusFlowers · 18/10/2021 19:23

We haven’t even had a consent form, never mind a date.

Pinkspecs · 18/10/2021 19:31

It's got nothing to do with intelligence as to why some haven't had it, why is it really worrying?
They are highly unlikely to get really ill with covid...

My kids have had all previous vaccinations, I myself have had both jabs.
I didn't deem it necessary for now for my child to have it, if further information comes to light then maybe so, but as we have always been told kids don't get really ill from it I don't think it's necessary.

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