Yay teens @ vaccine centres in few weeks!

[3asAbird]

Whilst I welcome the news its far too late

This should been done over summer maybe with schools mop up sessions.
Now vaccine centres have delivered teens and boosters at the same time.

They say in area weeks no definate date.

Their promise of by half term already Broken.

So many have covid they cabt have jab within 28 days.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10099589/Ministers-plan-walk-clinics-speed-vaccine-rollout-12-15-year-olds.html

www.theguardian.com/society/2021/oct/17/concern-over-jab-delay-for-pupils-in-england-as-age-group-cases-soar?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Infections already spreading other age groups.
Once jabs takes while tale effect
Jabs don't stop transfer.
No mandate on mask wearing or extra restriction until they are done.
Parents and teachers age group steep rise

Rising hospitalisation in kids and teens.
Highest ever cases.

Also by way I assume we still giving 1 jab which they say only protect adults 30% against delta varient.

In ds school 1/4 of year 10&11 have covid but none are ill and majority - if not all - were picked up on asymptomatic testing

That’s why kids cases are so high

No other age group is testing so much - none

My ds is in this year 11 and now people with covid aren’t even staying in as no one cares anymore - none of these kids have so much as a sniffle

They’re not in school but covid positive kids are certainly not isolating

Given 1/4 of his year have covid - ds hasn’t been contact traced once and he’s only one out of his group of 5 who currently doesn’t have covid. No tracing as clearly no one cares enough to worry

He’s still in school everyday and I won’t be testing him at all as he’s perfectly well

I won’t be testing for no symptoms to protect everyone who’s bloody double vax!

No other age group is being as inconvenienced as kids currently

Stop the bloodyvtesting

@bumbleymummy

Neither of my posts are negative. They both talk about case figures falling and hospitalisations not rising. I think both of those are pretty positive actually! :)

Falling case numbers would be lovely, if that’s what was happening. But what’s the relevance on a thread about vaccination centres being made available for teens?

People who want to use them will be happy to see this, people who don’t want to use them can ignore this.

Pushing this ridiculous agenda to minimise covid in kids and minimise the need for vaccination is getting pretty fucking boring.

18 months in to a pandemic and some people believe that if you don’t test for it, it doesn’t exist

Can we have one thread with useful information about vaccinating teens without any of this bollocks about covid not really affecting kids, or “they must be hospitalised for something else completely and the covid is just a coincidence!”

(Weird how hospitalisations rose as cases in teens rose then. Mad coincidences all around!)

If you don’t think it’s an issue and you’re not getting your kids vaccinated, leave the thread alone for people who might find it useful.

@BewareTheLibrarians it was in reply to your comment:

“Rising hospitalisation in kids and teens.
Highest ever cases.”

So if you don’t think case numbers or hospital figures are relevant to this thread, why did you bring them up? If you think I’m trying to minimise covid/need for vaccination by mentioning falling figures does that mean you’re trying to play them up/worry/scare people into feeling it’s necessary by saying that they’re rising?

@bumbleymummy

Neither of my posts are negative. They both talk about case figures falling and hospitalisations not rising. I think both of those are pretty positive actually! :)

But cases are rising and so are hospitalisations...

Haha it’s bloody obvious that when cases rise in kids then hospitalisations will rise

Are you stupid?

If 1 in 20 kids have covid

Then 1 on 20 kids who go to hospital will also have covid but it doesn’t mean they went in for covid

Bloody hell it’s not rocket science

Weird how hospitalisations rose as cases in teens rose then. Mad coincidences all around!)

I think her point was that they could have been hospitalised for something else but tested positive on admission.

As it is my kids are vaccinated

That’s not my point

I’m dismissing your scaremongering bull

You are posting data which you are not educated enough to analyse correctly so yes I will call you out on it

It does not mean more kids are being hospitalised due to covid at all

Kids go to hospital everyday

Fact is of covid is rife then many of those admitted for a variety of reasons will test for covid

*@BewareTheLibrarians it was in reply to your comment:

“Rising hospitalisation in kids and teens.
Highest ever cases.”

So if you don’t think case numbers or hospital figures are relevant to this thread, why did you bring them up?

Eh? I think you need to read the thread again, because “Rising hospitalisation in kids and teens., Highest ever cases.” was from the OP, not from any of my posts.

I didn’t “bring them up”, I posted after you, to counter your statement that there wasn’t a rise in hospitalisations near you, and you thought cases were dropping.

Fine, it was in response to the OP’s post. So if you don’t think they’re relevant, take them up with her.

How will t help if the vaccine doesn't stop you getting and spreading covid?

It makes a big difference to whether you catch, or spread, covid. So it's good to have it.

How will you feel if your DS goes on to develop heart problems for a virus that is almost zero risk to him?

The risk of myocarditis is much higher from Covid than from a single shot of vaccine, so that question can be turned around to you.

Don't think even bumbley could dispute either of those facts, so I've called your post out for the misinformation it is.

Some call it scaremongering bull, others call it ONS data.

“You are posting data which you are not educated enough to analyse correctly so yes I will call you out on it”

Being called “not educated enough” by someone who can’t actually seem to grasp that covid can have serious health outcomes for children doesn’t actually hurt as much as I thought it would.

“Fact is of covid is rife then many of those admitted for a variety of reasons will test for covid”

If this is the case it’s really good news. Could you point me towards where you saw that none of the admissions were actually due to covid? It would be really reassuring to see that.

@MrsArchchancellorRidcully

How will t help if the vaccine doesn't stop you getting and spreading covid?

How will you feel if your DS goes on to develop heart problems for a virus that is almost zero risk to him?

It reduces risk of infection and transmission

The risk of myo/pericarditis is higher from infection than it is from vaccination (both a tiny risk in any case)

This is good news, DS missed his vaccine as school as he got covid, & will also miss the mop up session at school because of the 28 day rule. Can community vaccines for teens be booked online?

@bumbleymummy

Fewer children will need it by the time it gets rolled out.

No rising hospitalisations in children/teens where I am. Case figures across all groups seem to be levelling off/falling now.

Hardly a shocker, is it? I’ve seen people getting pcr tests sat in McDonald’s stuffing their faces after having the test. God knows if they’re positive or not, but presumably they think they have it. Youths trying to catch it from mates so they can stay off school. Parents trying to catch it so they get the grant. (Absolutely rife!) Being vaccinated doesn’t turn you into a magical unicorn. You still catch it, you still spread it.

@legosunqueen I hope they will make it possible to book online, that seems to be easier than organising it through schools!

Not sure if it’s relevant, but Ds has already had his first at school, and was given the card with name/date and batch number. That seems to suggest they’re being centrally registered, which would help with the online booking in the future. Hopefully that’s not wishful thinking!

Being vaccinated doesn’t turn you into a magical unicorn.

Im sorry, I really disagree with this. My horn is magnificent

This might be handy for anyone who lives in this area. It’s not 100% clear if they’re referring to covid vaccines as well in their catch up clinic, but if anyone’s local to here, it might be worth getting in touch to check.

Here’s the useful bit:

“We hold community catch-up clinics that allow us to address vaccinations you or your child may have missed at school and have assisted during the COVID-19 pandemic to ensure the ongoing delivery of all childhood vaccinations.”

www.hct.nhs.uk/our-services/hertfordshire-and-east-anglia-community-and-school-age-immunisation-service/

@BewareTheLibrarians thanks, school have given me the number of the local authority/health authority immunisation team so I can pick up with them. It would make sense to hold central records but I've learnt not to assume a logical approach where the English approach to covid is concerned

No news of when COVID jabs will be at DC school, huge numbers off with COVID at the mo, jabs too late for many

Way way way too late! Its disgusting!!

@Watapalava

Haha it’s bloody obvious that when cases rise in kids then hospitalisations will rise

Are you stupid?

If 1 in 20 kids have covid

Then 1 on 20 kids who go to hospital will also have covid but it doesn’t mean they went in for covid

Bloody hell it’s not rocket science

There are also children getting very ill with covid, some with long term effects and a few dying sadly.

As the numbers rise of children get infected, so the numbers hospitalised will increase.

That is even more obvious. Isn't it?

@Watapalava

Haha it’s bloody obvious that when cases rise in kids then hospitalisations will rise

Are you stupid?

If 1 in 20 kids have covid

Then 1 on 20 kids who go to hospital will also have covid but it doesn’t mean they went in for covid

Bloody hell it’s not rocket science

This doesn't even make sense. If they go to hospital having Covid, you're saying they didn't go in because of Covid? Isn't the chance of that statistically small? Eg. if a child goes in with pneumonia and Covid, doctors will know the pneumonia has been caused by the Covid infection.

And why can't you use full stops?

Full stops - are you serious?

More than half of adults in hospital counted in covid numbers are in for other things totally unrelated for covid - not caused by covid - totally unrelated

Same for kids

Kids go in all the time

Almost every child hospitalised for covid has severe underlying issues - this has been proven and told to us dozens of time. Those kids who sadly need hospitalising with covid would be so vulnerable they would also likely be very ill with a common cold e.g cancer patients.

The covid risk to kids is miniscule - i cannot believe people are still arguing about this basic proven fact

Those kids who are at most at risk have been double vax or at least offered it but nonetheless will always be at risk of something

Please look at hospital data - there are approx 7000 people in hospital. This has been pretty constant all summer (actually bit lower now). Upto 900 on average are being admitted per day, The fact that this '7000' figure is not going up anywhere near even 100 a day proves most are "in and out" with mild illness or are in for other things - currently 7000 are being admitted per week going by the data yet the overall figure remains the same. The picture is stable.

Plus don't forget there are 2000 UK hospitals so hardly overrun with 2-3 patients on average!