Where are the new variants?...

[Warhertisuff]

We had a spate in a few months from December through to April: the U.K., Brazil, S.A. and India all producing ones of concern, with others emerging alongside them... However, and m probably tempting fate writing this, there hasn't been anything significant for a while....

I'm wondering if that's because Delta is, firstly, so transmissible that there's little scope left for any significant change that would give a new variant an edge and, secondly, Delta is able to continue to propagate despite vaccines, albeit that the vaccines take the edge off and reduce its harmful effects...

I can’t remember what I was reading this week but it did say in passing that delta is so dominant it has prevented new variants emerging

It wasn’t this, but this covers it
news.sky.com/story/covid-19-delta-is-making-other-coronavirus-variants-extinct-but-what-does-it-mean-for-the-uk-12431343

Delta itself is mutating and 🇺🇸 call ot delta plus I think

twitter.com/chrischirp/status/1448705622338375681?t=TH7IR68itGjwgkI5vstyYQ&s=19

Yeah I also read somewhere that Delta has become the most dominant strain and it has pushed all the others out.

I have no idea really what this means for future variants.

This is a very good question OP.

I am so sceptical now about the so called 'science' we are being fed by the media in particular but also by the scientists themselves.

The fearmongering isn't just MSM it is also the government (obviously) but scientists too who are securely under the government's thumb it seems to me.

We were told that new variants would be coming along thick and fast for a long time to come. So just as you say, where are they now?

A theory is that Delta is a best fit for SARS-CoV-2.
When covid was new to humans there was high rate of new variants emerging as the virus tried to adapt to spread well among humans.
Delta is the best fit so far & perhaps likely to remain so.
Delta originally emerged in late 2020, and only one (or 2? lambda, mu?) new VoC (both of which are outcompeted by Delta) have emerged since Delta was identified.

Debate about 'scary new variants' has been going on between microbiologists ("new variants emerge at same rate of new mutations forever!") & epidemiologists for > 1 yr -- epidemiologists ("viruses evolve to best fit and then settle down to being relatively quite stable and only very very slowly changing in their new host species") seem to have called it right with SARS-CoV-2.

Here’s the latest scientific opinion, poss new variant of delta being watched

twitter.com/chrischirp/status/1448705622338375681?s=21

Chrischirp is a professional fearmonger and panic-spreader pushing a hard-left political line for her own purposes (ideology, career).

I'm so glad I stopped paying any attention to her crying wolf all the time.

Meanwhile:

twitter.com/BallouxFrancois/status/1423095880345849860

Also:

twitter.com/BallouxFrancois/status/1449217846593064963

You’re entitled to your views @Oldgoat2021

Chrischirp is a professional fearmonger and panic-spreader pushing a hard-left political line for her own purposes (ideology, career).

How awful that such people exist. However, she may of course be none of these, and only described as such in the words of those with a particular grudge against her.

They'll bring a new one out beginning Dec so that the governments plan B gets implemented and we will have to have vaccine passports.

Which means they will want to push vaccinating the unvaccinated with a vaccine that was made for The Alpha variant

Even when their own data shows that per 100,000 people the cases are in the vaccinated for each bracket in the 30+ age categories

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1023849/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_40.pdf

Table from the report above

@Sagaaaats Yeah good luck with Plan B Boris

A row broke out last night over allegations that Boris Johnson and his now wife Carrie broke Covid lockdown rules last Christmas by allowing her best friend to stay with them at Downing Street.

The Prime Minister denied claims in the US Harper's Magazine that political campaigner Nimco Ali 'spent Christmas with the couple at No 10 despite pandemic restrictions on holiday gatherings'.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10097383/Row-allegations-Boris-Carrie-Johnson-broke-Covid-lockdown-rules-Christmas.html

That's so true now you mention it. Everyone was so afraid when lockdown was lifted precisely because of the possibility (probability?) of new variants.

But public health England actually reported in July that the variants would probably come from the vaccinated... but they continued to jab everyone regardless

Screenshot attached

Point 9 link below

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1001160/S1300_SAGE_93_minutes_Coronavirus__COVID-19__response__7_July_2021.pdf

1. There are four major risks associated with high numbers of infections. These are an increase in hospitalisations and deaths, more ‘Long-COVID’; workforce absences (including in the NHS); and the increased risk of new variants emerging. The combination of high prevalence and high levels of vaccination creates the conditions in which an immune escape variant is most likely to emerge. The likelihood of this happening is unknown, but such a variant would present a significant risk both in the UK and internationally.

The crucial line is

The combination of high prevalence and high levels of vaccination creates the conditions in which an immune escape variant is most likely to emerge

So they are admitting that mass vaccinating in a pandemic could cause mutation...... But they still do it... As has the rest of the world.

@borntobequiet

Chrischirp is a professional fearmonger and panic-spreader pushing a hard-left political line for her own purposes (ideology, career).

How awful that such people exist. However, she may of course be none of these, and only described as such in the words of those with a particular grudge against her.

"Those with a particular grudge against her"? You can include amongst them Sir Patrick Vallance:

twitter.com/MAbsoud/status/1449082329943654403

I’m afraid I missed the bit where she was called a professional fearmonger and panic-spreader pushing a hard-left political line for her own purposes (ideology, career), or anything similar, by Vallance.

Of course, he’s never been given to hyperbolic and borderline defamatory declarations.

That's not a grudge...

Does he specifically mention Professor Christina Pagel? ( and can you find the evidence of her 'hard' left wing ideologies? I have heard her referred to as a 'hard line centrist'. Quakes in boots.)

Chrischirp is a professional fearmonger and panic-spreader pushing a hard-left political line for her own purposes (ideology, career).

Gosh I thought I was the only person to notice or think this. I can’t stand the woman. I started following her on Twitter as she used to make sense but now is off her head with panic and fear.

Yes, indeed , that's why she has won awards for public engagement with science and for her work on coronary heart disease in children.

@Piggywaspushed

Yes, indeed , that's why she has won awards for public engagement with science and for her work on coronary heart disease in children.

Yes, on that award:

twitter.com/BallouxFrancois/status/1443318251392540677

Evidence of her hard left ideology please.

Are you a member of the Francois Balloux fanclub??

That's an undignified and unpleasant response

Balloux's Tweet did not go down well.

He is in an undignified and unpleasant struggle against the concept "public health" and no contortion is too much. He will even block philosophers for telling him he is tweeting political philosophy and knows nothing about it.