[quote riveted1]@Bizawit
Not sure how you can't see the misinformation in the letter I linked.
the idea that vaccines cause covid
It means that vaccination can cause COVID infection. It's a risk with some live/attenuated vaccines, but definitely not with the ones we're using (as the groups well know)
No previously healthy child under the age of 15 died during the pandemic in the UK and admissions to hospital or intensive care are exceedingly rare1
This is untrue (first point) and misleading (second point).
As of 13th May, the MHRA22 has received a total of 224,544 adverse events, including 1,145 deaths in association with SARS-CoV-2 vaccines.
Misleading - at no point do they caution these events are not proven to be causal.
Most concerning with regard to possible vaccination of children, is that there have now been a number of deaths associated with vaccination reported to VAERS in the US,
Same as above - VAERS is equivalent to the yellow card scheme in the UK.
The vaccines are, therefore, currently experimental with only limited short-term and no long-term adult safety data available.
They are not experimental. Long time safety cannot exist if the time hasn't elapsed and there is no plausible mechanism by which vaccines could cause effects that only emerging after a long time period.
A recently published paper raised the possibility that mRNA COVID-19 vaccines could trigger prion-based, neurodegenerative disease30
Absolute bullshit - the reference is a load rambling from an anti-vaxxer with no basis in robust science.[/quote]
the idea that vaccines cause covid
I don’t know that this was what was being said. And I certainly don’t know that this is the view of Hart.
No previously healthy child under the age of 15 died during the pandemic in the UK and admissions to hospital or intensive care are exceedingly rare1
This is untrue (first point) and misleading (second point)
First point- I’m willing to believe it, but please point me to the data source which says how many under 15s with no underlying conditions died between March 2020- May 2021 , where covid was on the death certificate.
Second point - I disagree, admissions of children due to covid are very rare, and comparable/ less than other common viruses.
As of 13th May, the MHRA22 has received a total of 224,544 adverse events, including 1,145 deaths in association with SARS-CoV-2 vaccines.
Misleading - at no point do they caution these events are not proven to be causal*.
This statement doesn’t say that these events have been proven causal. It says they have been reported and are “associated” which is true.
Most concerning with regard to possible vaccination of children, is that there have now been a number of deaths associated with vaccination reported to VAERS in the US,
Same as above - VAERS is equivalent to the yellow card scheme in the UK*
Again at no point to they say these events are causal.
The vaccines are, therefore, currently experimental with only limited short-term and no long-term adult safety data available
Whether a treatment is experimental is a matter of judgement / contestation (see recent litigation around puberty blockers for trans kids). There are medications that have been around much longer than these, that are considered experimental. It is true that we have limited data on this vaccine, particularly long term. Nothing wrong with pointing that out. In fact it’s very important to do so. It would be irresponsible not to.
A recently published paper raised the possibility that mRNA COVID-19 vaccines could trigger prion-based, neurodegenerative disease30
Absolute bullshit - the reference is a load rambling from an anti-vaxxer with no basis in robust science
The paper may be bullshit. All they have done is cite it. Maybe this is ill advised, but it’s perfectly transparent.