Is it ok we are just letting our kids get Covid?

[Moonopoly]

DD5 has just tested positive for Covid. There have been several cases in her Year 1 class but school remains the same. Under the old rules the ‘bubble’ would have closed and she would perhaps have stood some chance of not getting it.
Is it ok that we are letting the government pursue a herd immunity policy with a novel virus amongst our kids?
We seem to be the only country doing this?

I’m just going to add that I’m both a mother to and a teacher. I don’t feel in anyway that we’re being ‘thrown under the bus’ - what does that even mean anyway?
I’m well aware that those with high risk kids see this differently.

Like I say good luck with

denied vaccination in a timely way

Hope you have deep pockets.

@MarshaBradyo

Like I say good luck with

denied vaccination in a timely way

Hope you have deep pockets.

erm they campaigned for children to be denied vaccination

Oh look, that's what I wrote

And I am not going to actually sue them because it would be a "fond hope", that means something you can't do, but it would be nice if could happen

Legal accountability for campaigning for something that didn’t happen?

Ok go for it.

no I don't feel thrown under a bus exactly (but then we have had some access to vaccination, for which I'm very grateful)

I just think we could have vaccinated children earlier, if they wanted it, to everyone's benefit

and could use some more focussed mitigations now, at least in schools with outbreaks

of course it would be lovely if we didn't need masks in school

but our senior school is gently encouraging them again now, with good reason

@MarshaBradyo

Legal accountability for campaigning for something that didn’t happen?

Ok go for it.

I really apologise if English is not your first language (just occurred to me that this is possibility?)

but the Tory party DID take masks out of school

and the pressure from U4T looks like a factor in that

they had meetings with the PM, despite being a small, extreme pressure group

and they have recruited Tory MPs to campaign on their issues, which I linked to

They also campaigned against vaccination for children

all that DID happen

I think it would be lovely if they could be held responsible for the things which they DID do

"fond hope" means something you would like to happen but won't happen

(I did explain that bit )

And yet denied vaccination in a timely way didn’t

By all means include it with your team of lawyers

Maybe you are using Google translate and are not aware of what you are writing. But I wish you well.

@MarshaBradyo

And yet denied vaccination in a timely way didn’t

By all means include it with your team of lawyers

Maybe you are using Google translate and are not aware of what you are writing. But I wish you well.

No lawyers

campaigned against vaccination

have a lovely afternoon

Actually I would appreciate an appointed group to advocate for children in a pandemic;

We had Chris Whitty talking about harms of closed schools

And JCVI centring children for vaccination

But we lacked a group to ensure proportionate measures were taken and children had a stronger voice. Places like Chicago show what happens when this goes further and less of a voice

Well Parents United have been advocating for children and families, and yet they found it very hard to get their voice heard

Unlike the "astro turf" U4T

I'm not sure how a group advocating for children would fare, given Parents United's experience.

[quote Moonopoly]@NannyOggsward why is no other country doing this then? Why are we the exception (again)?[/quote]
I'm not in the UK but Denmark and we are no longer sending whole classes home. If there is a positive case then the whole class plus close contact teachers get tested on the first, fourth and sixth day (I think) and are free to return to school once each test has come back negative. I think we are encouraging siblings to be tested too but am not sure about that.

I’m in ROI and we’re stopping close contact isolations in classrooms from next week.

The us4them movement has been linked to other groups - there are a number of accounts on Twitter showing how they are linked to HART and others. Byline Times have also done articles. It does indeed show how they have had a lot more influence in government than one would expect, especially given how large grassroots groups such as Parents United have struggled.

Yes. Natural immunity (if you are low risk as most are) is broader. If my children had risk factors eg obesity etc I might think again.

Is obesity even a risk factor in primary age dc? I've never heard that mentioned. Only adults

This is reassuring re covid in children

This thread shows some of the planning to try to stop teenagers getting vaccinated.

twitter.com/threadreaderapp/status/1439599136651808773?s=21

[quote beentoldcomputersaysno]This thread shows some of the planning to try to stop teenagers getting vaccinated.

twitter.com/threadreaderapp/status/1439599136651808773?s=21[/quote]
Totally unsurprised it's yet more misinformation and pseudoscience being peddled by HART.

I would've thought that now they'd been revealed to be a bunch of cranks they'd have reformed under yet another jazzy acronym.

It also shows us4them

@beentoldcomputersaysno

It also shows us4them

Yeah I mean they're all the same people anyway

HART was just the iteration they had planned to keep as the "scientific" contingent, although that facade evaporated quickly.

@FirepitFrolics

This is reassuring re covid in children

Hmmm only ‘12 weeks’

@FirepitFrolics

This is reassuring re covid in children

With just screen shot of the page without any source, I don't find it so reassuring.

Careful @ollyollyoxenfree , you'll get a 'cease and desist' warning (until you show the link, then you'll get silence).

@Megistotherium this was actually quite widely reported, for example www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/17/long-covid-in-children-and-adolescents-is-less-common-than-previously-feared

Interesting that the HART individuals were actually writing to individual members of the JCVI about vaccinations for under 18s, according to that linked thread (quoting tweets) "to thwart children's jab rollout".