Fucking covid

[FuzzyClutter]

A little rant, if I may.

Tested positive yesterday, feeling pretty grim but fine as long as I don’t have to stand up. 2 dc also just tested positive. One just started college and one just started secondary. Both will have to isolate all of next week now. The eldest is panicking that she will fall further behind, and my youngest is absolutely beside herself because she loves her new school. Both have ASD and the youngest is having repeated meltdowns about missing a week of school. Which is really fun when you’re feeling crap and there’s nothing you can do about it.

I’m self employed so will lose a lot of money whilst I’m isolating, and also will have to pay a fair chunk of extra money for my daughter’s pony to be looked after over these 10 days as I cannot go to the livery yard. I know that sounds like a massive first world problem but I’m a single parent who sacrifices a lot to keep the pony on a shoe string so I could have done without this.

Add to that, my ex and very good friend (who I think we caught covid off as he tested positive on Wednesday), recently moved his 98 year old father down from his home 200 miles away, into a local nursing home, as he is nearing the end of his life. The doctor said he will likely pass away in the next 48 hours, and of course now he will die alone as my ex obviously can’t go and see him.

Had enough of this shit now.

@SweetBabyCheeses99 it’s people like you risking other people’s lives! So irresponsible.

@Kokeshi123

It is actually probably true to say that the pandemic will only end when the testing ends (because the virus is not going anywhere. Emerging consensus is that it is the "forever virus" and is gradually transitioning into a mild seasonal virus as we all build up immunity)

However, I agree that the time to end testing is not just now. It will be a gradual thing as hospitalization numbers fall and become manageable.

OP, isn't is a bit silly to refuse the vaccine and then moan about feeling crap from COVID?

What emerging consensus? The government are starting to prep for a bad winter.

The latest variant we are dealing with is not milder.

Agree. Son Awaiting his Pcr later 2 days in secondary yr 9 and he is next to a kid whose positive and sent home so now he has sore throat. Sneeezing cough. Etc

Dd friends both positive now too 🥲

Luckily we have no big plans in next week or two. In someways I just want to get this over with. Maybe once we have had it we will be able to live without the worry

I know you can get it twice.

Dh and me double jabbed.

The state does not pay most people so plenty cannot afford to do a test. It is a huge issue but not for rich privileged mumsnetters so it can be harder to understand the position of others in a different position.

At least I am double vaccinated

OP how can you come and here moaning you’ve got covid when you haven’t even taken the vaccine!

Actually sweet, I know lots of non mumsnet people who regularly test. We're trying to be part of the solution and keep things going instead of waiting for an almighty rise in cases and lockdown.

Lots of outrage about @SweetBabyCheeses99 's post and not testing....

Testing and isolating won't be enough to stop Covid from spreading... all it will do is slow down the spread somewhat. Unfortunately Covid is here to stay , and sadly there's nothing we can do about it. Ultimately it won't stop anyone from getting Covid.

Those outraged about passing it on to others don't really seem to have clocked in to this, and seem to be under the misapprehension that,'if only we were a bit more careful' that it would go away.

That's not to say testing isn't the responsible thing to do at present given cases are high and we don't want things to get so bad we need a return of restrictions, but @SweetBabyCheeses99 is only saying what we'll probably all be doing by the Spring.

@FuzzyClutter

People not being vaccinated is the main reason hospitals and ICUs are under pressure from Covid again, so whereas I sympathise with your daughters, i struggle to do the same for you given that not being vaccinated will have increased the chance of you passing it to them. Being a 'responsible' tester doesn't absolve you of this.

@Warhertisuff slowing down the speed is actually quite important in order to keep the NHS functioning over winter.

I’m pregnant, double jabbed but I would still not appreciate those who clearly have all the symptoms of Covid ignoring the guidance and spreading it to me and my household.

I’ve little sympathy for those who aren’t vaccinated either though.

[quote Tinydancer321]@SweetBabyCheeses99 it’s people like you risking other people’s lives! So irresponsible.[/quote]
Has everyone ignored the part where OP isn't vaccinated then?
Sweet Cheese has nothing on the OP.
And no, someone with a horse shouldn't be entitled to a £500 grant.

You’d better pray you don’t get long Covid, OP, as you are self employed. You could end up unfit to work for more than 18 months.
It was rather foolish to refuse the vaccine in your circumstances.

@Xenia

The state does not pay most people so plenty cannot afford to do a test. It is a huge issue but not for rich privileged mumsnetters so it can be harder to understand the position of others in a different position.

Exactly. If I was in a situation of no work no pay, I couldn't pay bills and buy food and there was no govt help you're damn right I'd still go to work.

The thing is that vaccination is important as it does make your chances of surviving Covid far better, but even people who are double jabbed can still suffer horribly - and even die. Some people still can’t safely be vaccinated. This is why vaccination is not yet the end of Covid by itself, and testing and isolating are still so important.

OP you sound too unwell to work anyway, so I don't really think you can blame the isolation rules. I must admit my self employed friends all got vaccinated because they were afraid of lengthy absences so I guess you knew the risk you were taking. Everyone makes choices, the right choice for them - and then have to live with that choice.

Your DC will catch up - lots of kids will be in the same boat. Surely they can do some online learning?

As for the pony, again you sound too unwell to look after it anyway.

@Babdoc

You’d better pray you don’t get long Covid, OP, as you are self employed. You could end up unfit to work for more than 18 months. It was rather foolish to refuse the vaccine in your circumstances.

To be fair, I have not say any evidence to suggest that the vaccine prevents long covid? And it certainly does not prevent transmission. So this comment seems a bit unfair.

They reckon the vaccine cuts the risk of long COVID by 50%
Xenia the idea of you as the voice of the poor mumsnetter is hilarious. You usually just want the serfs to get back to work.

Fair enough, I stand corrected! I had a look the other day and couldn't find any studies. If it does then that is fantastic news (speaking as someone who has experienced it, before the vaccine came out!)

Do your 2 children have symptoms..as according to the rules, there was no need for them to take a test or isolate tbh. Definitely not saying whether or not this is the ‘right’ thing but pcr tests are now only required with symptoms, not a close contact or even a household member (providing double jabbed/under 18)

[quote Greytminds]@Warhertisuff slowing down the speed is actually quite important in order to keep the NHS functioning over winter.

I’m pregnant, double jabbed but I would still not appreciate those who clearly have all the symptoms of Covid ignoring the guidance and spreading it to me and my household.

I’ve little sympathy for those who aren’t vaccinated either though.[/quote]
I agree given where numbers are at.... But at the same time, given that most people are interacting with others pretty normally without a second thought, with all the risk of Covid spread this brings, the "shock-horror" of not testing seems rather extreme.

@Warhertisuff, @SweetBabyCheeses99

Many people have not routinely had to test, and so have not. But a lot are being caught up in the delta spread. They test, and find out what a palaver it all turns out to be. Even if none of their friends nudge them with a "why on earth did you do a test in the first place?", I wouldn't be surprised if it changes their actions next time around.

To OP's point with his (/her) ex and father, I'd be very tempted to visit anyway. End of life is important. We missed my mum passing because we didn't travel (because it was lockdown) until we knew it was close, and then missed it. I have no idea what it is to die alone, but I would imagine uniting with family and children is amongst those experiences most important. It might seem calculating and callous to deliberately visit, risking spread. But hospitals are set up to minimise it, and are anyway broadly failing in doing so.

OP couldn't be bothered to vaccinate then comes on here moaning how rough she feels and how will she pay bills and feed horse... 🤔 vaccination would have been a consideration then to help prevent this.
My elderly mother sailed through covid not even feeling rough at all but then she is double vaccinated... go figure

PrivateHall, the study from King’s showed that vaccination cut the risk of long Covid from 11% to 5%.
As a doctor, I am not in the habit of making unsubstantiated claims, and I stand by my comment that OP was unwise, as a self employed person, to shun the vaccine.
Vaccination also lowers the risk of severe Covid, hospitalisation and death.