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[twinkletoesimnot]

Coronavirus: Young people warn of long Covid amid jab drive www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58301011

Article pushing younger people to get jabbed.
Sajid Javid even saying it's a risk for us all.....

We as a family have been lucky enough to avoid Covid so far. The new rules and school return make me feel very uneasy.

Is everyone REALLY ok with this headlong rush to infect our children that the government seem so hell bent on?

[quote Lelivre]www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2021-08-24/us-covid-19-outbreaks-force-early-reversals-on-in-person-learning[/quote]
Interesting read @Lelivre

Especially this paragraph

“People should realize it’s not over. It’s a real problem, a real public health issue,” said Dr. Tina Tan, a Northwestern University medical professor who chairs the American Academy of Pediatrics Section on Infectious Diseases. “You have to do everything to prevent the spread of COVID in the school.”
Which is not the same as saying 'close all the schools.'

@twinkletoesimnot

Which is understandable when they are working with people who are potentially ill already.

I just don't get why they are literally going to do nothing at all to try and prevent kids getting it.
Quite the opposite actually.

Our school (primary) are keeping staggered drop offs/pick ups, one way systems, masks on school run, bubbles (although will be key stage rather than class) etc.

Teachers masked too.

The situation in schools does make me nervous. A child in DS’s class has 2 siblings and a mother who are currently positive and he’s attending school. As far as I know he’s doing regular LFTs, but given how inaccurate these tests are said to be, I do wonder how safe it actually is. I would like to see all secondary age children at least offered the vaccination. Of course not all will want to have it, but it would be good to at least have the option.

All secondary age children in Scotland are still required to wear masks though, so hopefully that will help.

And they have all had the opportunity to be double vaccinated

A few posters have incorrectly stated on this thread that teachers are all double vaccinated or all have had the opportunity to. This is untrue for many of the younger staff. My colleague for example, was only able to have their first vaccine back in July and won’t be double vaccinated by when England term starts as won’t have been 8 weeks yet.

This is what happens when face to face education staff were not included in the phase 2 vaccine rollout but many on here were fine with (can’t have education staff ‘jump a queue’ eh!?)

I would also like to point out to the many posters who just shrug and say ‘there’s no budget, nothing will happen, so why bother?’ that the DforE have suddenly found the funds to purchase CO2 monitors (one per two classrooms-how helpful) so it can be done-now they just need to provide funds for when those monitors go off and there is little way of increasing ventilation due to lack of or broken windows etc.
The positive to come away from this, if we don’t roll over and let the govt get away with doing nothing, is that this should help fewer children catch a lot of the viruses (not just Covid) going around and keep as many children physically in school, well, as possible. After all, that is what everyone wants. Isn’t it?

@ButteringMyArse

If children get it ( presuming they are tested, or poorly) parents will stay at home surely? Even the most selfish / idiotic won't ask grandparents to help will they??

You surely can't possibly be so naive as to imagine that every child has a parent who'll be in a position to stay at home and care for them whilst still keeping a roof over their heads and food in the fridge?

Any number of things could happen to any child at any time that would lead to a parent needing to take time off work...potentially for longer than 10 days. If a child ends up in hospital or with a serious health condition what would these parents do then? It's always a risk...probably a much higher one than covid. Terrible that it happens at all that a parent would be put in that position but that's life and 10 days (which would be once only likely due to the fact its only if the child is positive) is really nothing in a child's life in the grand scheme of things.

@ChloeDecker good point i.e. funding. It seems odd that this wasn't put in sooner to try to reduce spread, given how much it cost when schools could no longer cope, or were partially open due to mass infections.

@ButteringMyArse

If children get it ( presuming they are tested, or poorly) parents will stay at home surely? Even the most selfish / idiotic won't ask grandparents to help will they??

You surely can't possibly be so naive as to imagine that every child has a parent who'll be in a position to stay at home and care for them whilst still keeping a roof over their heads and food in the fridge?

Exactly. My parents were 50 when DS was 5, 55 when he was 10. If grandparents are double vaxxed and able to WFH or otherwise to care for their grandchild and are willing to then what exactly is the issue?

Mmm, my DM was about the same age when her first DGC was born. I bet in some of the more affluent areas of the country, the average age of the Year 6 dads is more than that!

@ButteringMyArse

Mmm, my DM was about the same age when her first DGC was born. I bet in some of the more affluent areas of the country, the average age of the Year 6 dads is more than that!

Well then if grandparents are in their 70’s/80’s you probably wouldn’t ask them, but many aren’t. As I said above, my mum still works full time in ICU, she’s not a frail pensioner. My dad is a director in a large international bank and frequently travels abroad for work. I wish I could ask them to help with my DC but they’re pretty busy!

I bet in some of the more affluent areas of the country, the average age of the Year 6 dads is more than that!
Yes, many dads would be older than many other grand dads. The relationship alone does not make it selfish or idiotic to ask a relative if they are willing to care for a child.