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Now it's the young ones ruining statistics

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ruumis · 12/08/2021 16:40

Dm is a character and now she is blaming young people filling hospitals. Apparently they are fat and so unhealthy that they can't cope covid. She doesn't remember that before vaccines they were filling hospitals. I can't be bothered to argue with her but is this the thing old people thinking now?

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Cornettoninja · 12/08/2021 16:43

Not universally I wouldn’t have thought but it does seem to tie in with the mindset that the younger generation just need to stop buying takeaway coffees and avocados if they want to buy a house…

Iknowtheanswer · 12/08/2021 16:50

My mil is blaming us/the youngsters because we are "blasé" about it.

Going to work, seeing friends and stuff... Our own fault apparently

ilovesooty · 12/08/2021 16:54

How old is your mother?

Original poster
ruumis · 12/08/2021 16:56

74

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mibbelucieachwell · 12/08/2021 17:05

For me, minimally affected by the last 18 months compared with so many people, the poor leadership we have had which has happily stoked division has been one of the most upsetting things. The fact that so many people blame others is just awful. I used to nod along or try to be diplomatic when older people or even just middle aged people like myself were criticising younger people for being selfish/irresponsible and causing the continuing spread of the virus. Now I'm so fed up of them I disagree with them and point out how badly affected by the restrictions the younger people have been and how lucky we are that they're so compliant.

The media has a lot to answer for though with their shoddy, over simplistic sensationalist reporting.

Gives me the Angry

bumbleymummy · 12/08/2021 17:23

Over 50s are still making up the majority in hospital with coronavirus, not young people.

MMM2 · 12/08/2021 17:26

Sixty+ here and I think most of the young people I know have been caring, helpful and cautious during the pandemic, and the majority are now starting to receive their second vaccine.

PrincessNutNuts · 12/08/2021 17:38

@ruumis

Dm is a character and now she is blaming young people filling hospitals. Apparently they are fat and so unhealthy that they can't cope covid. She doesn't remember that before vaccines they were filling hospitals. I can't be bothered to argue with her but is this the thing old people thinking now?
DH's cousin is in hospital with covid right now. He has an outdoor active job, a sport as his main hobby, and is a bit gym obsessed. I'm not sure you could pinch any fat on him anywhere. (I haven't tried.)

He's in hospital with covid because his "my body is a temple" thing extended to not getting the vaccine based on a deliberate campaign of disinformation designed to minimise covid.

The other cousins his age (early 30s) are getting their second jab this month.

It's a horror that young people in their teens, 20s and 30s are dying from this thing.

And it's most emphatically not their fault.

chocolateorangeinhaler · 12/08/2021 17:41

The hospitals are all filling up. Not because of covid but because hospitals have been told quite bluntly by DOH to get on with getting back to normal and start elective surgery again.
Getting waiting lists down is why hospitals are busy, outpatient clinics are ramping up too. In some cases working Saturdays too. The latest spike in covid cases has not (touch wood) translated into admissions like last time.

PrincessNutNuts · 12/08/2021 17:43

Hospital admissions by age:

Now it's the young ones ruining statistics
Now it's the young ones ruining statistics
Now it's the young ones ruining statistics
User135644 · 12/08/2021 17:50

@Iknowtheanswer

My mil is blaming us/the youngsters because we are "blasé" about it.

Going to work, seeing friends and stuff... Our own fault apparently

'Just stay at home'
FizziWater · 12/08/2021 17:56

@MMM2

Sixty+ here and I think most of the young people I know have been caring, helpful and cautious during the pandemic, and the majority are now starting to receive their second vaccine.
Same here. This is true of all the young people I know, and I am delighted that they are at last getting tneir lives back. It's also true that vaccine take up is not so good for under 30s.
NorthernNic · 12/08/2021 18:05

Anecdotal evidence but for me the younger generation have been the ones giving a wide berth when passing, wearing masks, following the one way systems in shops etc. To me it's always been men of a certain age with masks under their nose or chin getting in people's way!

XenoBitch · 12/08/2021 18:08

Percentage wise, there are more younger people in hospital than during the last wave, but that is due to there being fewer older people (because of the vaccine).

Your DM has it all wrong.

BluebellsGreenbells · 12/08/2021 18:10

The younger people have stayed at home missed their education and social lives UNTIL the elderly were vaccinated - now with everything opening up they are the ones thrown to the wolves because they didn’t get vaccines

Your mother is a disgrace.

sproutsandparsnips · 12/08/2021 22:38

What's your point PrincessNutsNuts? (Not being arsey, just confused).

HungryHippo11 · 12/08/2021 22:43

There aren't more young people in hospital with covid, there are just fewer old people in hospital with covid because they've been double vaccinated already. The percentage may have increased but the actual number hasn't.

Saidtoomuch · 12/08/2021 22:47

The younger people have stayed at home missed their education and social lives UNTIL the elderly were vaccinated - now with everything opening up they are the ones thrown to the wolves because they didn’t get vaccines

Your mother is a disgrace.

^^ with knobs on!

I know a 21 year old who has been in hospital with Covid, extremely fit and healthy, even had the first jab. Victim blaming is not helping.

Tealightsandd · 12/08/2021 23:15

Something like 68 million people in the UK. All individuals. Every single one of them.

OP's anecdote is just that. Her personal experience of the opinion of one person that she knows.

Agree with a pp. Stoking division is an age old fail safe tactic for bad or failed leadership. Currently the in-thing division is age and region.

PrincessNutNuts · 12/08/2021 23:26

@sproutsandparsnips

What's your point PrincessNutsNuts? (Not being arsey, just confused).
In my first post that the OP's DM is wrong.

In the second, that the poster who said the hospital admissions were mainly in the over 50s is wrong.

Tealightsandd · 12/08/2021 23:29

@sproutsandparsnips

What's your point PrincessNutsNuts? (Not being arsey, just confused).
Probably she posted the data in response to Bumbley's post.

If there is the same number of young people in hospital now than during January, than that's quite a lot.

OP it's really quite bizarre that you think your mother represents her entire age group Confused Really really strange!

Tealightsandd · 12/08/2021 23:34

@BluebellsGreenbells

The younger people have stayed at home missed their education and social lives UNTIL the elderly were vaccinated - now with everything opening up they are the ones thrown to the wolves because they didn’t get vaccines

Your mother is a disgrace.

This implies that:

a) It's 'only' the elderly at risk. Not true - particularly with Delta, but even before Delta, millions of younger people are clinically vulnerable.

And,

b) Elderly don't have social lives or participate in society. Guess what? They do. And since the retirement age was raised, many are still working too. The difference of course is that, unlike the young, the elderly won't get the chance to make up for lost time. I bet the ones who gave up smoking regret it now. I mean, it turns out living longer isn't so valued afterall.

Meanwhile some young people are still having to stay at home (or at least limit their participation in society). The CEV under 12s. I feel so sorry for those young people (and their families).

bumbleymummy · 12/08/2021 23:48

Data irt hospitalisations from PHE. Not sure who you are considering ‘young’ but if you even want to say they are the under 35s, there are 161 in hospital compared to 314 over 55s so no, young people are not the ones ‘filling the hospitals’.

Tealightsandd · 13/08/2021 00:02

You're missing the 35-55s from your post Bumbley.

Young/young middle aged. The age group of parents (of school age children). Hardly old.

I wonder how many 40 somethings - the group at higher risk but not included in vaccine priority first phase are in hospital? I assume many only recently received their second jab - and it's likely AZ, which although good isn't as effective as the mRNA vaccines (or at least, takes more time to build up protection).

bumbleymummy · 13/08/2021 00:08

Not missing them. Just wouldn’t consider them ‘young people’ from the OP. Sorry if that offends anyone! Grin

86 in the 35-44 group
75 in the 45-54 group