To all the pregnant ladies - please get your jab

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Link: www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58014779

171 pregnant ladies admitted to hospital in last 3 months, 98% unvaccinated (3 had a single dose only, none double jabbed). One in 5 of them went on to have a premature birth

Conversely, more than 55,000 pregnant women have had the jab in the country with no safety concerns

So please get the jab if you’re pregnant

The BBC article is just annoying.

It says in last 3 months 171 "pregnant women with covid needed hospital care" implying it was due to covid. Actually 90 of those women (approx 55%) were admitted due to covid. Of those, 90% were over 22 weeks pregnant so would have initially been told to avoid the jab, in fact it's probably more than that given the short time frame of the period.

So what we have is 90 pregnant women (in the period of the study the BBC is referring to) hospitalised due to covid, not 171, and who for the first few months of their pregnancy were advised to absolutely avoid the vaccine, and around 60% are already clinically at risk due to obesity. But the story is "pregnant women aren't getting vaccinated and LOOK WHAT HAPPENS"

They then bemoan 'misinformation' saying "We've been really frustrated to hear of so much misinformation and the confusion this has caused." Well no, these are women for who the official advice was do not have the vaccine. It's no surprise that when the information changes partway through their pregnancy they remain hesitant! They're not dumbly believing Facebook memes, they're anxious about the official information changing.

The data still needs to be looked at properly. The NHS says 1-200 births are still born on a 'normal' year. 60,000 babies are born prematurely every year.

We need to look at if these mother that had covid were asymptomatic and didn't know they had covid or if they were specifically admitted to hospital because they were unwell. OR if these figures in the link make a difference to the yearly outcome of stats.And also is these mothers have co-morbities, older or obese or from a ethnic minority.

The data just is not in yet.

This is a very personal choice and mothers should be allowed to decide by themselves if they want the jab with out being made to feel guilty or blackmailed.

[quote Jenala]The UKOSS study the BBC is using here is interesting if you actually read it.

It says (study quotes in italics):

"Hospital admission was defined as an overnight hospital stay, or longer, for any cause, or admission of any duration to give birth. Women were taken as confirmed SARSCoV-2 if they were hospitalised during pregnancy or within two days after giving birth and had positive test during or within seven days of admission"

"Of those where the primary reason for admission was known (74.8%, n=2521), just under half (45.0%, n=1137) were admitted for COVID-19, 30.0% (n=755) for labour and birth and 25.0% (n=629) for other obstetric reasons."

So around half were admitted due to covid symptoms. The other half were admitted for labour (30%) or other obstetric reasons (20%) and also tested positive.

"... the majority of women were overweight or obese"

Table shows 60% were overweight or obese which we know increases risk of serious illness. Perhaps title should be "to all the overweight pregnant ladies - please get your jabs".

"The absence of admission in pregnant women that have been fully vaccinated against SARS-CoV-2 supports the effectiveness of immunisation".

Pregnant women weren't routinely offered the vaccine until 16th April and study period is 1st March to 11th July. Only around 10% of the women admitted in each period were

@jenala thank you for linking the detail. This is why I always try to look at the research rather than read articles. I'm off to read the full research document.