Why is the Guardian reporting 131 daily deaths?

[OhamIreally]

So I'm looking at the Guardian which is reporting 131 daily deaths whilst the BBC and Daily Mail are both reporting 14!
I've noticed that the Guardian tends to report in a way that shows figures in a more negative light (such as vaccination rates across the whole population rather than across adults- fair enough) but why this massive disparity?

Um... Because the Guardian is reporting today's figures? 14 deaths was yesterday's figure wasn't it?

131 is what it says on the government dashboard.

Sky News reporting 131 too

BBC says 131 deaths when I just looked

131 is correct

coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths

Because the Guardian has read today's report coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths

BBC

As you can see for yourself here

Telegraph is 131 - Tuesday is always high so it wasn’t going to be 14. I think the others just aren’t updated yet, not a guardian conspiracy!
Vaccine as a % of total population is something I like it makes it easier to compare with other countries. Not just adults are being vaccinated.
Otherwise is an adult over 18, over 16, do you ignore the under 16s getting their jabs - how do they fit in the numbers on other sites?

It's relatively high today because there have been issues with reporting deaths over the last few days, plus the weekend lag which always makes figures a bit higher on Tuesdays.

Infection figures (which are also usually higher after the weekend) are half of what they were last Tuesday though, and it's the seventh consecutive day they've fallen. So that's very encouraging.

I see thank you I knew I'd get an answer here. I did see it said 27th as the date but at the time I posted both BBC and the Mail said 14 and it wasn't clear to me that it was yesterday's figure.
So is Monday usually low and Tuesday catches up with the reporting?

Need to remember that very few of those deaths were actually within the last 24 or even 48 hours. They are deaths reported today, many will be historical, there used to be a spreadsheet that showed when they were added from, not sure where to find that now, but once there were deaths added from a year before and still counted within daily deaths

@OhamIreally

I see thank you I knew I'd get an answer here. I did see it said 27th as the date but at the time I posted both BBC and the Mail said 14 and it wasn't clear to me that it was yesterday's figure. So is Monday usually low and Tuesday catches up with the reporting?

The figures posted on the dashboard are one day behind. So the figures posted on Monday are for Sunday. We won't know today's figures until tomorrow.

The data reported on Monday (for Sunday) is usually lower because things are closed on Sundays and it can take longer for some of the data to come through. There is sometimes a spike in Mondays or Tuesdays data (posted on Tuesday and Wednesday) as it catches up.

Is 131, funny thing is I've tried to get a PCR locally and it's sending me to Timbuktu... anyone wondering if the testing positive numbers are down as people can't get a test?!

@marieantoinehairnet

Is 131, funny thing is I've tried to get a PCR locally and it's sending me to Timbuktu... anyone wondering if the testing positive numbers are down as people can't get a test?!

Tests are easily available where I am and numbers have dropped dramatically in the past week.

I don’t agree that the Guardian is right to only report the % of the total population which is fully vaccinated. We are not attempting to vaccinate children, so they shouldn’t be included in the figures.

They are just report ing the lowest, most slanted possible figure they can come up with to be critical of the government. It’s pathetic, and not what a supposedly serious newspaper should be doing.

Failed attempt to expose corrupt MSM?

@Unfashionable

I don’t agree that the Guardian is right to only report the % of the total population which is fully vaccinated. We are not attempting to vaccinate children, so they shouldn’t be included in the figures.

They are just report ing the lowest, most slanted possible figure they can come up with to be critical of the government. It’s pathetic, and not what a supposedly serious newspaper should be doing.

But it's true as the total population of the UK includes children. Maybe they should put both measures. % of those eligible for vaccination and % vaccinated of the total UK population.

Just like the reported 131 daily deaths was another fact.

Facts not bias.

Herd immunity is normally based on the Total Population. Children are included in the Total Population.

Herd immunity is achieved with 80% to 90%
of the Total Population. Although new variants might require a higher percentage. This is not being biais, this is just being factual.

All developing countries are doing very well (50% to 60% of theIr Total Population is vaccinated on average ) but have still a long way to go to conquer this nasty virus (must reach 80%).

We cannot therefore talk of herd immunity if only a segment of the population is vaccinated such as 40s to 60s or the over 75s

It is easier to gage how far we are from herd immunity if the percentage of the Total Population is being reported hence World In Data etc..

It is a world pandemic after all .

Unfashionable the guardian does not this all the times, its why I worry when people only read the guardian

@Whatever9999

Need to remember that very few of those deaths were actually within the last 24 or even 48 hours. They are deaths reported today, many will be historical, there used to be a spreadsheet that showed when they were added from, not sure where to find that now, but once there were deaths added from a year before and still counted within daily deaths

Also important to remember that many of those who died would have been in hospital for, and died from some other ailment, but were unfortunate enough to contract COVID-19 during their stay.

Please don't everyone panic.

Interesting point about the percentage of all our population who have had the vaccine. Would anyone mind posting the current figure?

Maybe they should put both measures. % of those eligible for vaccination and % vaccinated of the total UK population.

I agree.

The reason the U.K. is not vaccinating children against covid is because the independent JCVI have advised the government that the benefits of doing so do not clearly outweigh the risks for that age group.

I’m all in favour of vaccines for those who benefit, and I’m all in favour of criticising the government when it screws up, but that’s not the case here. Covid is a trivial illness in healthy children, which is why the experts have advised against vaccinating them.

@Unfashionable

Maybe they should put both measures. % of those eligible for vaccination and % vaccinated of the total UK population.

I agree.

The reason the U.K. is not vaccinating children against covid is because the independent JCVI have advised the government that the benefits of doing so do not clearly outweigh the risks for that age group.

I’m all in favour of vaccines for those who benefit, and I’m all in favour of criticising the government when it screws up, but that’s not the case here. Covid is a trivial illness in healthy children, which is why the experts have advised against vaccinating them.

we still only have just over 55% population doubly vaccinated though, as children are, you know, people, and it is not just the guardian that reports it like this.

Yes, UK Total Population is circa 67 million.
Circa 55% of Uk total population is fully vaccinated.
Needs 80 to 90 % of Total Population to be vaccinated to stop spread of disease (herd immunity)

Ireland just announced that they will start vaccinating over the age of 12 in order to reach 80% of their total population.