Isolating from school... or not

[JemimaMoon]

Both dcs sent home as close contacts this week. Seems like a whole load of the kids from their year groups have taken it as a holiday and are out and about with their mates. It's all a bit of a joke really.

@0None0 people are already not isolating now when they're "meant too" what makes you think once it's dropped, if its implemented again that people will comply ? They won't. Compliance for testing isolating and restrictions are dwindling it's unsustainable long term. It seems the public,like Boris, are deciding to live it. For some that's horrendous for others it's welcome.

[quote Wellbythebloodyhell]@0None0 people are already not isolating now when they're "meant too" what makes you think once it's dropped, if its implemented again that people will comply ? They won't. Compliance for testing isolating and restrictions are dwindling it's unsustainable long term. It seems the public,like Boris, are deciding to live it. For some that's horrendous for others it's welcome.[/quote]
This is exactly why I find it hard to believe that we would ever be able to achieve a lockdown like this first one.

The compliance just isn’t there. You can shut down businesses sure, but you won’t be able to easily stop people mixing with love ones again.

If they can’t mix in public, they will just mix in private homes.

We're all now isolating as DS is a close contact from school and has woke today, day 3 with a temp of 38.5 so I'm assuming covid.

With 3dc at 3 different schools I would have expected to have to isolate more but 2 dc have had to isolate once and one not at all.

@0None0 if lockdown is reintroduced it won't be because of my DS (we have never had to isolate at any point anyway) it will be because of super spreader events like the Euros. But of course they are money makers, who cares if healthy DC have to be locked away for 10 days at a time?

I'm done with it all. I'll never comply with any of the "rules" again. I'm vaxxed, so that's good enough for me.

DS2 (6) has been SI three times in a row (close contact, not ill). I absolutely will not subject him to house arrest for weeks on end, when 60,000 were allowed into wembley the other day with a supposedly negative test (which wasn't necessarily their own).

We have been going for walks, picnic etc keeping him away from the general public and from anything indoors. We have also been to a visit to in laws garden (they are fully aware of the situation and don't want him locked up any more than we do).

I am not (yet) allowing him to play out with all the other chldren but with the apparent free for all that's happening on monday - and the inevitable 4th lockdown that will happen this autumn - I will probably change my mind on that very soon.

@rookiemere
couldn't agree more.

Agreed. My 'close contact' son who is 100% well and testing neg every day is not sacrificing another minute of his life in some virtue signalling exercise that is still pretending we can somehow eradicate the virus whilst football fans can gather and behave as they did last week. My more vulnerable relatives know the score and are choosing on an individual basis what to do with regards to contact. Thats where we are now. We have to be. There has to be balance.

@Dddccc

Completely agree with u op I am sick to death of people ignoring the rules and even after a year ppl cant seem to wear a mask correctly, my ds is isolating due to a school case and the parent had sent the child in when she was positive and risked 30 other house holds

i agree that that's irresponsible. But that's not what we're talking about here. The rules state that hundreds of thousands of perfectly healthy children (and adults for that matter) being subjected to house arrest. Adults voted for this inept government. Children did not.

Everyone I know is feeling pretty loose about the self isolation rules, but following them to the letter when anyone in the house is actually positive or ill.

Yes @Frazzled2207 that's the difference- if we actually tested positive then of course we'd self isolate - apart from walking the dog when no one else is around.
But unfortunately draconian self isolation for school children has squandered everyone's good will. Either the government policy is to let it rip or it is not. A halfway house where everyone but the under 18s can get round the regulations is ridiculous.

Yes, to be clear, if anyone actually in the household or someone who I actually knew had been in prolonged close contact with recently was + then I'd SI, but not for an unnamed 'school' cc.. Especially when DS doesn't have many mates, he's secondary so they aren't all over each other and his school still have masks in the classroom.

The close contact for under 18s thing doesn't end until mid august. Not Monday. Bubbles end but that obv means there's a higher chance of becoming a close contact if they were still in school. Also the schools won't have to deal with the contact tracing from Monday so the kids would have to tell someone at track and trace who they've been around so it won't be huge amounts of classmates anymore

@HugeAckmansWife

Agreed. My 'close contact' son who is 100% well and testing neg every day is not sacrificing another minute of his life in some virtue signalling exercise that is still pretending we can somehow eradicate the virus whilst football fans can gather and behave as they did last week. My more vulnerable relatives know the score and are choosing on an individual basis what to do with regards to contact. Thats where we are now. We have to be. There has to be balance.

Totally agree, sending children home to miss education what adults can spread merilly is wrong. Picking on children and calling selfish is quite pathetic

My son is 'isolating' from school because a kid in another class has it. So 60 families sat at home because one kid has it.

This is batshit crazy. Surely people can see this, no?

If you want a jab, have one. Then crack on.

Mine are at home but DON'T have to isolate which is driving the self-appointed covigilantees mad seeing them out and about.

They're in the middle of transferring schools, bubble in the school they're switching to burst on the day they finished their old school so the new class is home for the duration and they are via association, but since there's been no contact whatsoever - I'm not making them stay at home.

It's driven a few of the twisty knickers brigade satisfyingly nuts.

[quote iloveredpandas]@0None0 oh what sort of capacity are kids speaking to you about this? A professional one?

Those conversations seem incredibly bizarre and exaggerated.[/quote]
They sound invented.

Yes I will follow it. My 17yr old son has Covid now and it’s no joke, and that’s for a fit healthy kid. I feel sorry for the clinically vulnerable when there’s so many selfish people around. A walk in the early morning or late evening I think is ok, but sending your kids off to sleepovers and out to their mates is totally complicit in continuing to keep us in this situation longer and longer

@ButteringMyArse @0None0

They were obviously invented!

17 year olds (plural) saying 'when I was young and stupid' referring to a period of a year ago... yeh right.

Kids don't talk like that. Who 'despises' their parents for not keeping up with regulations and is planning to totally cut them off ages 18.

I would hope in your professional capacity you referred them for counselling if this was the case - probably not though, as it's clearly totally made up.

Only a few weeks to go and kids won't be isolating AT ALL. Even the ones who have been licking people with Covid.

Everyone will be looking back wistfully at the good old days when kids sent home from school were 'breaking regulations' by playing happily outdoors with minimal risk to anybody.

Fortunately the 17 year old will be older and wiser by their 18th birthday and less prone to making silly decisions like cutting their parents completely out of their life because they disagreed on the best way to handle a pandemic.

It's odd that you're having these conversations with so many children @0None0 though - don't you work in mental health?

For purposes of student finance applications I suspect lots of people will "cut contact" with families on their 18th birthday 🙄

From Monday schools won't even be closing bubbles and from August close contacts under 18 won't need to isolate. I can see why some families are already breaking the rules, but I'm also waiting to see cases rise and hospitals become overwhelmed again.

My DS was told to self isolate today by the school due to someone he had contact with 5 days ago - bit late now! He will do the last 5 days but why does it take so long to let someone know?

My DC are now isolating because of multiple fully vaccinated teachers across year groups testing positive. School is now closed to all for the summer because there aren’t enough staff left to finish next week. This is in a not especially affected area of the SE.

@Titsywoo

My DS was told to self isolate today by the school due to someone he had contact with 5 days ago - bit late now! He will do the last 5 days but why does it take so long to let someone know?

Some test results take 3-4 days. And even if off school the poorly child might not have had a test on day 1 for a number of reasons

My dc won’t be isolating again. I totally lost all respect for the rules when they allowed 60,000 football fans to ram into Wembley and allowed multiple mass football related gatherings to occur ‘because it’s football’. And now people are moaning because cases are rapidly rising. Well no shit Sherlock.

Agreed. My 'close contact' son who is 100% well and testing neg every day is not sacrificing another minute of his life in some virtue signalling exercise that is still pretending we can somehow eradicate the virus whilst football fans can gather and behave as they did last week.

Absolutely agree @HugeAckmansWife