Sainsbury's and Tesco have joined the bookseller, Waterstones, which has said customers should wear masks to protect staff and other shoppers.

[UndercoverToad]

Good.

@youkiddingme

I'm not middle class, can't even claim the honour of being working class any more as I'm too disabled to work. I have only had one vaccine so far due to health issues causing delays. I will wear a mask. I'm not asking anyone else to. Yet I have no doubt I will be treated with disdain by people who like to make keep this issue as divided as possible. And as for trying to keep my social distance from someone else who doesn't want to, how does that work? I'd be very happy for a situation where if I'm wearing a mask people keep their distance and let me do my thing. I doubt this will be the case. 'Get yer mask off yer wuss' is already growing in popularity. I agree the Government selling it as 'a moral duty' backfired to a large extent. How about we learn to live and let live and try and work out how and where we can compromise rather than looking for where we have to take polarised views.

I would hope that people would be able to be as understanding as my children. They already know that if someone is wearing a mask outside it means they are vulnerable/extra nervous and that means they need to give them extra space. I've simply expanded that concept for them, so they know that if someone is wearing a mask anywhere that means that they need that extra space. If an asd child with the empathy skills of a rock can get it, so can most people

@gardeninggirl68

News just said new cases almost exclusively from the unvaccinated

So no, still not wearing masks. A colleague is horrified because her parents have been shielding and she's terrified we will pass covid her way..... parents are CEV but vaccinated

Your colleague is understandably concerned, as doubly vaccinated people can still get ill, especially if CEV. Wearing a mask indoors and in crowded places is still a courtesy and kindness to CEV people. If, of course, you are able to do that.

Well out of a hundred colleagues I doubt everyone will

So many people suffering with mental health as well as physically. So far it seems 50/50 amongst colleagues....half wearing and half not

Just read that a SAGE scientists called cloth face masks ‘security blankets’ that do little to curb spread.

@bumbleymummy

Just read that a SAGE scientists called cloth face masks ‘security blankets’ that do little to curb spread.

Yes, I can see why 'any face covering' was the message when masks weren't readily available at the start, and NHS and care homes were scrambling to get any at all.

But now supply has stabilised, I agree that a move towards better types of masks would be eminently sensible

Literally 1 in 10 wearing masks out today in our store. It's hot and freedom day has apparently come a day early

@bumbleymummy

Just read that a SAGE scientists called cloth face masks ‘security blankets’ that do little to curb spread.

More misinformation

This quote does not come from "SAGE scientists" and is certainly not their view

It's from Colin Axon, an engineer who has spoken to SAGE, but is not part of it. He claims that masks don't make a difference which is patently untrue. Predictably he is also anti-suppression policies and mass vaccination. There is a huge amount of evidence that demonstrates cloth masks reduce the amount of viral particles expelled by an infectious person, therefore reducing the viral load people in the surrounding environment are exposed to. This translates to fewer infections, and better clinical outcomes of those who are infectious.

@bumbleymummy, you are anti the COVID vaccines, anti-suppression policies and now anti-mask? Do you think if all measures are dropped everything will be just fine?

you are anti the COVID vaccines, anti-suppression policies and now anti-mask? Do you think if all measures are dropped everything will be just fine?

I’m not ‘anti’ any of those things. The vaccines have been great at reducing serious illness and death in vulnerable people. The restrictions were necessary to stop the nhs being overwhelmed until the vaccine kicked in and masks were included as part of those restrictions.

Sorry, should have said advisor rather than scientist.

@bumbleymummy

you are anti the COVID vaccines, anti-suppression policies and now anti-mask? Do you think if all measures are dropped everything will be just fine?

I’m not ‘anti’ any of those things. The vaccines have been great at reducing serious illness and death in vulnerable people. The restrictions were necessary to stop the nhs being overwhelmed until the vaccine kicked in and masks were included as part of those restrictions.

Sorry, should have said advisor rather than scientist.

he's not an advisor

he is someone who wrote a paper on ventilation which was included in the evidence reviewed by SAGE. Despite his views, and considering other sourced of evidence, they recommend cloth masks for the reasons I outlined above.

there are crank scientists everywhere peddling pseudoscience on vaccines, masks, ivermectin, various suppression policies and you can easily find a quote from any of them to back up untrue statements

@bumbleymummy

you are anti the COVID vaccines, anti-suppression policies and now anti-mask? Do you think if all measures are dropped everything will be just fine?

I’m not ‘anti’ any of those things. The vaccines have been great at reducing serious illness and death in vulnerable people. The restrictions were necessary to stop the nhs being overwhelmed until the vaccine kicked in and masks were included as part of those restrictions.

Sorry, should have said advisor rather than scientist.

you have posted multiple times on how non-vulnerable people should not be vaccinated as it's not necessary, and you are anti the mass vaccination programme?

I’ve said they don’t need to be vaccinated and I don’t agree with the current policy of coercion and guilt tripping people who don’t want or need it. So, no, not anti- the vaccines in general. HTH.

The article is in the Telegraph. If you have a problem with them describing him as an ‘advisor to SAGE’ then take it up with them.

@bumbleymummy

I’ve said they don’t need to be vaccinated and I don’t agree with the current policy of coercion and guilt tripping people who don’t want or need it. So, no, not anti- the vaccines in general. HTH.

The article is in the Telegraph. If you have a problem with them describing him as an ‘advisor to SAGE’ then take it up with them.

yup there's misinformation everything in the media and the telegraph are just as guilty of it as others

a quick web search will demonstrate he is not an advisor to SAGE, and indeed has no relevant expertise to making these (or his other dubious) claims

If you don't want to wear a mask then don't, but there's no need to try and justify it with misinformation that they make no difference to transmission