Anyone else worried about kids getting sent home to isolate just before going on holiday?

[goingslightlyinsane]

As title says- my Daughter is in secondary school due to break up next week for summer. We have a UK break booked (rented a house) straight after school finishes.

I feel like it's really closing in on us here- lots of kids already being sent home to isolate, daily emails from school of new cases. It's just rife!

I'm just wondering if this happened to you would you still go? Or do as your told and miss out on a very much needed holiday.

Although this hasn't happened (fingers crossed it doesn't) it could happen. Given that the isolation rules are changing on 19th August I would be inclined to just fu*k it and go anyway, even though this is rule breaking. (And do daily LF tests)

I'm just interested what others would do if this happened to them? As it will happen to some.

I know a family who had to cancel an expensive holiday a few weeks ago because the kids had to SI. The bonkers thing was they’d all just recovered from covid. Is bananas. Along with just about every other covid policy atm.

Oh good! I thought you'd totally lost it tbh

@0None0

Honestly. I don’t know why any schools are still open. It’s everywhere. Children are in and out like jack-in-the-boxes.

The government should be announcing early closure of schools for the summer, to protect family holidays.

However they are stupid, useless and don’t care

I’m the absence of any coherent leadership, parents need to take the initiative and pull their kids out now

Er, some of us need to work out of the home. We can't all work from home! How am I supposed to magic up last minute childcare for my 8 year old?

@0None0
I’d rather the government prioritise kids education by keeping healthy kids in school, than prioritise holidays!

I have one dd at home isolating ( ends Sunday) I have taken the other dd in school, out of school we want to go away to visit my parents double jabbed but Dad is very vulnerable, I have phoned school and left a message but not heard anything back... there are so many kids out already ( several busses ) one more is not going to hurt.

@goingslightlyinsane

It seems a lot of us have a similar way of thinking here. I have also heard of people taking kids out to prevent it- I'm not going to do that, I think they have missed enough school already.

Fingers crossed this won't even happen- but if it does I think I would just go.
(I am normally an avid rule follower too)

I would go too.

I'm an avid rule follower too, but..

DH tested positive this morning on a lateral flow. Waiting for PCR but he's coughing and has a temperature.

I took a lateral flow - positive. No symptoms. Haven't been in contact with anyone else, so not going to get PCR, will just isolate for 10 days.

Ds's (teenagers) are both well and fine, but not going anywhere near lateral flow tests. If they tested positive, with no symptoms, they could end up ruining holidays for most of their best friends.

I think the government's lost this battle now.

Obviously, kids are isolating by the way, as close contacts of their dad

We moved our holiday abroad to next summer because of this risk. 3 kids - Sod’s law one of their bubbles would burst just before we left.

Iknow

I wish more people would stop testing and do what you’re doing

In dds achool (which finishes Friday) kids re still doing the 1x weekly tests so loads are now missing holidays because of positive asymptomatic cases

It makes my blood boil. By all means test on lft but keep your mouth shut

Families holidays and family trips to see relatives are being ruined because some kid hasn’t so much of a sniffle

Stop bloody testing

I think the government's lost this battle now
Sadly, yes.

This thread proves it.
Still it's only Covid. Nothing bad can happen.

There were only ten in my dds class today and the school was like a ghost town on pick up and drop off.

No one self isolating due to cases, according to parents whatsapp group, off to avoid being tod to SI for holidays/paid for days out,

Dd is in because we’ve had no chance of affording any holiday or day out in years!

Ditto for us. Finished term, friend had a positive test so school told my son to isolate for 10 days which has meant cancelled plans and quite a bit of hassle. We've done lateral flow tests which have been negative every day, thankfully his last day is tomorrow.

School aside as you don't know who your child has been near, I personally wouldn't take my kids for a PCR test after a positive lateral flow as it triggers the formal contact tracing. My children would obviously isolate and I'd let other parents (of children they'd been in contact with) know so they can manage it in whatever way they see fit for the circumstances, whether that be daily testing or isolation. I don't think it's fair otherwise when people have holiday plans and are responsible enough to take appropriate mitigating action.

I think the number of people who have said they'll go on holiday anyway, despite being told to isolate, suggests that lots aren't responsible enough to take appropriate mitigating action.

I don't know the answers but I do think the government have lost control. Kids have been let down time and time again over this so I understand people are frustrated but we will be in another lockdown soon if we all just ignore the need to SI and refuse to take tests because we'd rather be on holiday. The possibility of new variants off the back of all this depresses me. I don't want my kids to be off school in September because a vaccine resistant variant is killing old people again.

I can't take my kids out of school for 10 days before our holiday as I have to go to work. A lot of SAHP on this thread I presume?

I’m pulling my son out of school on Friday, 2 days early to minimise ruined holiday time! Covid is rife in his school.

I’m not a SAHP but can work from home and he’s secondary.

A lot of SAHP on this thread I presume?
No, not at all. But if DC have to isolate, it’s all on me. If they don’t have to isolate I can use some cobbled together version of friends, holiday clubs, play dates etc.

Mine are secondary

It’s likely mostly secondary pulling out because a) they can be left alone during day and b) they’re the ones having to have a pcr to travel abroad and don’t want to test positive

Everyone has a different view on appropriate mitigations though. Is it acceptable to go on holiday on day 9 of your 10 day isolation period if you're still having negative lateral flow tests? I think most would say yes if you're driving and self-catering. Because one day later you're legally free to get on a plane, tube or whatever which is much more likely to spread infections.

With so many adults vaccinated, there is a grey area. Presumably why they're looking to move to daily testing for vaccinated adults and school kids...

The DC break up on Friday and we're going on holiday on Monday. I'm really hoping their bubbles don't burst in the next 3 days but if they do, then it's not a straightforward 'stay at home' for me. If it's one of their class then yes we'd stay at home and claim on our insurance. Of it's someone in another class and the whole year gets sent home then I'd pack the LFTs and go anyway.

I got the dreaded phone call today that the bubble burst, we go in 10 days. In some respects it's a relief that she's now isolating till we go but the fear now is if she develops symptoms.

🤞 she doesn’t

To be fair I don’t know a single contact who has gone into catch covid

I know loads who have developed covid 5-7 days into their isolation. If you want to avoid testing positive for covid then don't take any tests. That seems to be the latest advice.

@bhy123

Everyone has a different view on appropriate mitigations though. Is it acceptable to go on holiday on day 9 of your 10 day isolation period if you're still having negative lateral flow tests? I think most would say yes if you're driving and self-catering. Because one day later you're legally free to get on a plane, tube or whatever which is much more likely to spread infections.

With so many adults vaccinated, there is a grey area. Presumably why they're looking to move to daily testing for vaccinated adults and school kids...

This.

I think one of the issues is that the approach has been so heavy handed and disproportionate that people can’t be bothered now. I mean, the idea that if you fly in from a country with a lower rate than here you can’t even walk the dog in a deserted wood is kind of bonkers. As well as the months / year of being told you are basically a murderer if you leave your local area
even if you’re going by car for a walk in the countryside - because somehow the one in hundred thousand chance that you have an accident and need an ambulance and have Covid is somehow bigger than the risk you pose by going on a local walk in a packed town centre… I don’t know, I mean this is why people have had enough?

And that’s before you add in the fact that all the politicians and broadcasters and celebrities urging caution and asking us all to give up so much are themselves happily at large scale events. I guess people see people at Wimbledon and the football and think that their very, very low risk holiday in a self catered cottage in the middle of nowhere is not really that big a deal even if one of them technically should be isolating due to a burst bubble.

The government have pretty much told us to manage this ourselves so 🤷