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No masks in Euro final?

66 replies

TheUnquestionedAnswer · 11/07/2021 21:26

I must say I have not been watching too much news recently. Did the fans have to show proof of a negative test before being allowed in? Most don't have masks on, or is it not a rule now for crowds not to have to wear them?

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Wellbythebloodyhell · 12/07/2021 04:33

*PaulaPetunia

I'm staying home for a while.

Me too.

No non-essential trips out for the next couple of weeks.

It's the sensible thing to do following the largest superspreader event of the pandemic so far.

I'm sure you'll be on the next Queens honors list for your efforts

Indigopearl · 12/07/2021 06:06

@delilahbucket

Fully vaccinated or negative test for entry. The scientists are watching these events very closely as it's great data for them to see how Covid spreads when people are close by but vaccinated or testing negative. Despite what Facebook users say, these events are actually very useful.
Most scientists would disagree www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/25/uk-covid-pilot-events-record-no-substantial-outbreaks Scientists have warned that it is very difficult to draw any conclusions from the tests because although all event attenders were required to provide a negative rapid test – a lateral flow test – as the condition of entry into the events, they are not considered as effective as the gold standard PCR test.

PCR testing before and after an event was a voluntary request for attenders. Although PCR tests take at least a day to give results, they are far more reliable.

Paul Hunter, a professor of medicine at the University of East Anglia, said it was difficult to draw any valid conclusions about the magnitude of the Covid transmission risk, because only a small proportion of people tested were tested after the event.

“I don’t think we can actually draw many strong conclusions out of this at all really – other than there does seem to be an increased risk associated with indoor events compared to outdoor events. But we knew that already,” he said.

Allyson Pollock, a clinical professor of public health at Newcastle University, described the study as “very poor” and the £2bn spent on Innova lateral flow tests – the type used in the ERP – as a “public scandal” due to their “very low return rate and very low yield”.

The government was trying to balance the economic benefits of opening events against the harms they are going to cause by spreading Covid, said Jon Deeks, a professor of biostatistics at the University of Birmingham. “But they haven’t really got that counted properly.”

In July, more than 60,000 fans will be allowed into Wembley for the semi-finals and final ofEuro 2020. Deeks said the main reason the positive cases were low in the initial dataset was because of the very low prevalence of disease at that time. “But it won’t be as good at the Euro 2020 finals,” he added.

Musication · 12/07/2021 06:16

Rules don't count for sport. Meanwhile my 8 year old DD is on her 2nd 10 day isolation (with 2 days in between), this time because she went on an outdoor school trip with a girl who later tested positive.
But yeah, 70k supporters screaming and hugging for a sport match and probably not doing the tests afterwards.

CantGetNoSleep73 · 12/07/2021 07:25

@Musication surely though you won't keep them her at home this time? Will you take her out, I bloody well would. It's a complete slap in the face to kids. Why should it be any different for children. Why can't a lft be used. Kids aren't even at risk from covid and clearly footie fans aren't either.
The government is a complete farce, it's absolutely the last straw for me after last night and I will not be partaking in anymore of this shit.

Call me selfish whatever but my children's lives are just as important.
The pp was right about the VIP from Brazil mingling away. Also Valance was at Wimbledon yesterday, isn't he asking for "freedom day" to be moved?
Bloody Tom cruise was at Wimbledon and football, as was Kate. Didn't see them looking all worried about the super spreading virus, there must be some kind of invisible shield whilst people are all within licking distance of each other Hmm

Horseyhorsey3 · 12/07/2021 07:36

@delilahbucket

Fully vaccinated or negative test for entry. The scientists are watching these events very closely as it's great data for them to see how Covid spreads when people are close by but vaccinated or testing negative. Despite what Facebook users say, these events are actually very useful.
I presume the delightful ticketless England fans who rushed security also stopped to show proof of jab/negative test?
Musication · 12/07/2021 07:50

[quote CantGetNoSleep73]@Musication surely though you won't keep them her at home this time? Will you take her out, I bloody well would. It's a complete slap in the face to kids. Why should it be any different for children. Why can't a lft be used. Kids aren't even at risk from covid and clearly footie fans aren't either.
The government is a complete farce, it's absolutely the last straw for me after last night and I will not be partaking in anymore of this shit.

Call me selfish whatever but my children's lives are just as important.
The pp was right about the VIP from Brazil mingling away. Also Valance was at Wimbledon yesterday, isn't he asking for "freedom day" to be moved?
Bloody Tom cruise was at Wimbledon and football, as was Kate. Didn't see them looking all worried about the super spreading virus, there must be some kind of invisible shield whilst people are all within licking distance of each other Hmm
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yes I am taking out a bit tbh. Done a couple of LFTs on her but I'm so upset for her missing school - we moved back to the UK a few weeks back and she started school to make new friends before the summer hols. She hasn't really had that chance because it appears we've entered this total farce.

HelloMissus · 12/07/2021 07:52

I was at Wembley last night and provided a negative test result (I’m also double jabbed). But there’s nothing that says I HAVE to test in the next few days as far as I’m aware.

eurochick · 12/07/2021 07:53

I read that the group it is spreading fastest in at the moment is young adult men. Why that might be is an absolute mystery. 🤷‍♀️

Oblomov21 · 12/07/2021 07:57

"I'm still not going to pubs, gigs or anything public, despite what the gov want."

That's your choice.

I am.

HelloMissus · 12/07/2021 08:06

It makes me laugh when folk announce they won’t go to a pub or whatever.
Like the hospitality industry will miss your slapped arse face nursing an orange juice Grin

Odisia · 12/07/2021 08:25

I'm in London and have only known one person this year test positive for covid. I have friends who have been to Wimbledon and others, including my DH, who have been to several games at Wembley. All are fine.

I've been to pubs, restaurants, museums and travelled on buses, trains and tubes in recent weeks.

There were test events weeks ago in Liverpool and since then they've gradually increased capacity at events. There is strong evidence that covid is rarely transmitted in outdoor settings.

People on here saying they won't go out, won't go to a pub. When will you think it's ok to do so?

TheUnquestionedAnswer · 12/07/2021 08:52

@HelloMissus Glad to keep you entertained. Personal choice, as I have family members who are CEV.

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screwcovid · 12/07/2021 08:53

@HelloMissus

It makes me laugh when folk announce they won’t go to a pub or whatever. Like the hospitality industry will miss your slapped arse face nursing an orange juice Grin
Ha ha
screwcovid · 12/07/2021 08:54

@Wellbythebloodyhell your comment is brilliant

Dustyboots · 12/07/2021 09:07

The government is a complete farce, it's absolutely the last straw for me after last night and I will not be partaking in anymore of this shit.

Yes. This.

Dustyboots · 12/07/2021 09:17

@Odisia I’m also in London and have been doing much the same as you. Difference is I know 2! people who’ve had Covid very mildly.

When I see this football event and the crowds, it makes me wonder. I’ve never questioned whether Covid was real. Why would it not be?

But the only Covid horror stories I know of are here or in the news. And then events like this are allowed to take place. No wonder people are COVID deniers.

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