Covid 'pox parties'

[User135644]

With the announcement this week of basically "we're all going to get Covid now, so crack on with life", i've heard a few people now locally looking to arrange Covid parties now. This is so they can get Covid 'before freedom day', or specifically before their holiday in August, therefore they don't have to worry about testing positive or catching it while on holiday.

Will these be the new 'Pox parties' over the next few weeks?

www.imperial.ac.uk/news/201473/covid-19-linked-increase-type-diabetes-children/

Ain’t no cure for stupid.

@AllWashedOut

For anyone young actually why not do this? It is a mild illness for the young and healthy. It is a highly contagious respiratory illness that we all will, at some point, be exposed to. Vaccine will not eradicate covid anytime in the next few years. That is a fact. We would think it mad to avoid other endemic viral illness. As well as coming to terms with living with covid, I think we also have to come to terms with disease. It's part of being human.

It's not always a mild illness for the young and healthy. We lost a friend to it last year. She was young and healthy with no underlying conditions and left a baby behind.

Glitterblue

I don’t know any sane person who would be up for a covid party. You would have to be a special sort of stupid.

@StrawberrySundayz

Getting Covid once doesn’t make you immune to it.

I think the idea is to get it now so it doesn't spoil their holiday in August when they jet off somewhere.

Will these people expect treatment if they need to go to hospital in the short term or later go on to develop a long term problem such as long covid?

I wonder who'll get bumped back onto the waiting lists because of them?

&you can bet your bottom dollar they won't be careful about infecting others with these attitude -the Delta Virus is incredible infectious

@StrawberrySundayz

Getting Covid once doesn’t make you immune to it.

Are you mad? Yes it does!

It gives you antibodies, but they don't give long term protection. A friend of mine tested positive twice, in April 2020 and again the following November.

@DaisyWaldron

It gives you antibodies, but they don't give long term protection. A friend of mine tested positive twice, in April 2020 and again the following November.

Exactly. It’s really not like chicken pox.

Anyone under the impression it is should look up the Brazilian city Manaus .

www.scientificamerican.com/article/a-city-in-brazils-amazon-rain-forest-is-a-stark-warning-about-covid-to-the-rest-of-the-world/

@puppeteer unless you get it very seriously you may not get long term immunity against another variant there is a fair amount of research on this

@Cornettoninja & in India & the Philippines

Indeed @mumwon. You can lead a horse to water and all that…

This really is a disease for the stupid and then as a result the unlucky

I'm sorry to all those who have lost love ones, old or young.

Whatever personal stories to the contrary, the data quite categorically shows that deaths in the young are low.

ONS1

worldometer

Also fig 5: ONS2

Young, fit and healthy people also die from flu. Of course, longer term immunity from natural infection is not certain. Nor is illness after double jabs (as NHS and Israeli data are showing).

So we really go on forevermore having 6 monthly boosters?

protection from illness after double jabs

[quote mumwon]@puppeteer unless you get it very seriously you may not get long term immunity against another variant there is a fair amount of research on this[/quote]
Yes. That's right actually. And it's just like what happens with colds, no? If I'm recalling the same studies, the finding was basically that if you get severe infection (very broader: are older, more vulnerable) you tend to develop a more robust immune response.

But it's a good point to make, because it perhaps affect the pox parties argument.

It does rather make them fairly pointless from an individual immunity point of view. But on the other hand, you get some control over when you are infected, which is valuable while track & trace, self-isolation and travel restrictions are things. I guess it reinforces community immunity, which is also a good thing, albeit perhaps less likely to be cross-variant, as you suggest.

Don't know. It's not a slam dunk, is it. Not out-and-out irresponsible, though.

It does seem like the plan is herd immunity amongst the kids so I do kind of get it. But wouldn’t personally take my kids to a covid party!

@User135644

Won't be doing it myself but at this point I sort of don't blame people for wanting to get it over with.

I think that's the idea, get it over with now.

Although I know with some it's a cynical way of catching it/being in close contact with the virus, to get time off work while the isolation period is extended till August.

But you can get covid more than once, so it doesn't make sense to have a party

But they can still get again before their holiday

No it doesn't.

I know someone thats had it 3 times in 2020

@User5827372728

It does seem like the plan is herd immunity amongst the kids so I do kind of get it. But wouldn’t personally take my kids to a covid party!

At the moment, you just need a normal party.

Sorry. :-)

@SonnetForSpring

Vaccines are much safer than getting covid. Jeez, some people must have been living under a rock bot to know all the complications covid can cause.

Not for young people they're not. Unless they're morbidly obese or have underlying health conditions.

You need to look at data from countries where they have comprehensive AER systems (eg Norway), unlike the slack Uk/US voluntary & underreported systems that allow our captured regulators to stick their fingers in their ears and heads in the sand.

The stupid people would probably still go to the shops and take their kids to school. But as long as it doesn't mess up their holiday, right?