The human cost of lockdown

Cantstandsmugness · 03/07/2021 20:05

Yes utterly horrific, the world has gone mad. It’s as if covid is the only thing that can kill you. Totally unacceptable. My heart breaks for all these families in a similar situation.

Stuffin · 03/07/2021 20:05

I had read that a few days ago and was utterly disgusted that they and others had to go through that.

The rules are and have been inhumane,

Wherediditgo · 03/07/2021 20:06

This is heartbreaking.

I don’t understand the disparity between different settings and situations either. When my grandmother passed away in a carehome last June, three of us were allowed to see her and be with her in her final days. Not all at the same time, only one of us could be with her but at least it meant she wasn’t alone and we all got to say goodbye.

That poor man and his poor family

Comedycook · 03/07/2021 20:08

Absolutely horrendous

TheSquigglething · 03/07/2021 20:10

Horrendous. That poor family.

Imagine if the media started reporting daily cancer deaths (approx. 450 in UK I think?) alongside daily covid deaths. This would show up lockdown rules for the inhumane farce they are.

SorrySoldOut · 03/07/2021 20:14

i suppose the hospital has a duty of care though....to both staff and current patients. its harsh but before Hancock,necessary.. what else could they do? the more people allowed in the higher the chance of staff or already vulnerable people catching covid. the tests only go so far, and as we found out in our workplace, people do lie

sad story. and Hancock is a disgrace

HermioneWeasley · 03/07/2021 20:19

Heartbreaking, inhuman and cruel.

The disproportionate focus on avoiding the spread of covid, has made people lose all sense

UpSlyDown · 03/07/2021 20:19

Barbaric. It’s shameful to be quite honest how people have been treated. We will look back on so many similar situations to this was huge regret I think. That poor man and family.

Stuffin · 03/07/2021 20:19

i suppose the hospital has a duty of care though

Surely their duty of care should allow someone extremely ill to be allowed visitors. Or does covid mean that we no longer allow anyone other than a patient to attend hospital? It's disgusting that this is being used to deny people dignity and comfort.

herecomesthsun · 03/07/2021 20:25

That isn't "the rules" in many other hospitals, it sounds like a very worrying anomaly to do with that particular hospital and situation.

I can completely understand why the family would be beside themselves over it.

WeRTheOnesWeHaveBeenWaitingFor · 03/07/2021 20:25

I can’t understand how the staff at the hospital could be so cruel and heartless. Even if they had to enforce the rules (which they shouldn’t have IMO) they should have been kind and caring about it. People loose their humanity when faced with so much awfulness.

SorrySoldOut · 03/07/2021 20:27

@Stuffin

i suppose the hospital has a duty of care though

Surely their duty of care should allow someone extremely ill to be allowed visitors. Or does covid mean that we no longer allow anyone other than a patient to attend hospital? It's disgusting that this is being used to deny people dignity and comfort.

so what should they allow then? wheres the cut off in your opinion? and what would you say if your own hospitalised ill family member caught covid from visitors?and the nurses caring for that member had to isolate or were ill themselves, leaving staff stretched for cover?

my own family have recently been through this. it sucks i agree

TheKeatingFive · 03/07/2021 20:28

Barbaric. It’s shameful to be quite honest how people have been treated. We will look back on so many similar situations to this was huge regret I think. That poor man and family.

I couldn’t agree more. Appalling.

i suppose the hospital has a duty of care though

What about their duty of care to a young man who lay dying? But it seemed like absolutely nothing mattered but Covid.

Stuffin · 03/07/2021 20:33

so what should they allow then? wheres the cut off in your opinion ?and what would you say if your own hospitalised ill family member caught covid from visitors?and the nurses caring for that member had to isolate or were ill themselves, leaving staff stretched for cover?

My DH got covid from work and is still suffering but I still don't think it's at all appropriate to limit visitors in this situation. It's disproportional and inhumane as feeds into the narrative they only covid infections matter. It makes me actually very angry and their behalf.

Wherediditgo · 03/07/2021 21:10

They could have allowed visitors more often with appropriate PPE. That’s what my grandmother’s care home did when she was at the end of her life.

They had a duty of care to that man and they neglected it.

Bobholll · 03/07/2021 21:44

Honestly appalling. I could combust with anger reading this. The idea someone could die alone after weeks of isolation knowing they were probably dying. It’s literally a form of torture. He was so young as well. I think I’d have just left & said no, I’ll die at home.

My granny was in hospital last summer & she was allowed one named visitor every day. It had to be the same visitor but they could go every single day. Why was it not the case here?!

The hospitals response is pathetic.

Chessie678 · 03/07/2021 21:55

The statement from the hospital is really cold and defensive too. Sounds like the hospital’s approach damaged this man’s health and gave him a difficult lonely death and they have zero regret because at least he didn’t get covid.

AnneElliott · 03/07/2021 22:21

That is awful - and I do blame the staff. The way the family were treated is completely unfeeling and unacceptable.

It doesn't say if he was offered palliative care at home? My aunt was diagnosed with cancer last July and died in September but she spent the last 5 weeks at home so we could see her every day. Would have been awful to not have seen her and I feel so bad for that family.

Lockdownbear · 03/07/2021 22:51

@TheSquigglething

Horrendous. That poor family.

Imagine if the media started reporting daily cancer deaths (approx. 450 in UK I think?) alongside daily covid deaths. This would show up lockdown rules for the inhumane farce they are.

Would be even more interesting if they published the suicide deaths and numbers of people going missing. Along with the numbers from comparable weeks from 2019.

The horrendous affects of SD and Lockdown on people's MH is shameful. Solitary confinement is the harshest punishment issued, yet perfectly acceptable to ask innocent children and adults to tolerate it for 14 days.

Single people, who'd normally have a support network of family, clubs, voluntary roles, limited to visiting one other household for months on end.

People have had businesses go under, lost jobs, little chance of getting another job, but have all the same bills to pay.

The company who write the Horrible Histories books must be rubbing their hands, they've been handed a 21st century edition!

StarlingsDarlings · 03/07/2021 23:15

The hospitals response is absolutely disgusting. If they were trying to appear unapologetic then they’ve hit the nail on the head.

That poor man and his family. To leave him virtually alone for seven weeks as he died is barbaric.

My DGM died during covid and I’m so glad we managed to keep her at home to die. My OH’s DGM also passed away and he was only allowed 15 minutes in full PPE with her, despite a negative covid test. It’s appalling.

AprilAzpilicueta · 03/07/2021 23:21

It's awful. My DGM died during lockdown and she was allowed only two visitors (separately and in full PPE) in her final couple of days. She has three children. They had to decide among themselves which two out of the three of them would be allowed to say a final goodbye to their beloved mum. Fucking hideous situation. Not that I blame the nurses, they're also in a difficult position and I'm sure they were being as accommodating as they were able.

LittleRed53 · 03/07/2021 23:30

Some people can't see the wood for the trees. Covid rules are supposed to be built on putting a high value on human life- this kind of implementation ends up with some people being treated as if their life and humanity is worthless.

It's utterly unacceptable in every way.

My heart breaks for that family, and for their son, to spend his final weeks in such a horrific situation.

ATieLikeRichardGere · 03/07/2021 23:53

What did I just read?? That is absolutely horrendous!! Holy ducking hell. What is wrong with people.

bumblenbean · 04/07/2021 02:04

Absolutely appalling and outrageous. That poor man. What kind of an end of life experience is that? A young man in his 20s, stuck in hospital dying, isolated, scared and unable to to even see his family? Absolutely scandalous. If it was my son I would be taking the complaint as far as I possibly could.

Yes the hospitals need to take covid precautions but this just defies all logic and compassion. Couldn’t they have asked for negative covid tests before each visit or something? Covid has had such a catastrophic impact way beyond the huge number of direct deaths.

Susannahmoody · 04/07/2021 02:17

Duty of care to whom, exactly? Their patients, one would have thought??