You were all right. It’s just never going to end.

[Louby08]

So many of you on here have said my anxiety won’t just end, and for weeks I’ve told myself it will.
It will end once I’ve got my second jab.

Well you were all right. It’s not just going to end. It’s going to find something else to worry about.


So last night it was approved for me to have my second jab as Pfizer (following first dose of AZ)

I felt so relieved and happy. But tonight, that nagging anxious voice, the doubt, it’s getting to me.

I’m starting to panic now about it not being safe to mix vaccine doses.
Is it going to cause me long term side effects.
I’m telling myself it’s not a good idea and it’s better to just stay partially vaccinated with 1Az

I’ve got my appointment tomorrow morning and I really want to go.

I don’t want to have my second AZ so my option is 2nd one as Pfizer or stay as one vaccine.

I’m worrying that mixing vaccines won’t mean I’m fully vaccinated.
Does it mean I don’t have as much protection.
Will I not be able to travel?

FML 😭

[GreyhoundG1rl]

Are you serious? You've been proclaiming on here that your anxiety will end when you're vaccinated and people are arguing that it won't?!
How very peculiar.

[ColettesEarrings]

@Louby08

"Thank you. But this isn’t just down to my mental illness it’s a genuine concern about mixing vaccines"

It's entirely due to your mental illness. You need serious psychological or psychiatric support. You are very very ill. And we cannot help you here. Please please deactivate your account and get serious about your recovery.

[Louby08]

@ColettesEarrings

You need serious psychological or psychiatric support

I was assessed in A&E last night.

I will be under the care of a psychologist, on the NHS. I’m not a priority. I will be on a waiting list, which could be up to 6 months!
In the mean time I’m having some CBT and fortnightly reviews with my GP.

I don’t think they classified me as “very very ill”

But if you’re medically trained then perhaps
I should take not of your diagnosis.

[Louby08]

@GreyhoundG1rl

Are you serious? You've been proclaiming on here that your anxiety will end when you're vaccinated and people are arguing that it won't?!
How very peculiar.

@GreyhoundG1rl

But I’m not vaccinated yet.

All I’m saying is I’m worried about mixing vaccines.

[Louby08]

@Mrgrinch

Why are you mixing them?

@Mrgrinch

Due to severe anxiety around having AZ.

[Notebooksarefabulous]

If you are anxious about mixing the vaccines and having a mixture not being as effective - just have the 2nd AZ jab..........
Ive had both. Felt under the weather for 24 hours with the first, barely noticed the effects of the second. Job done.
As others have said I agree that posting on mn isnt helping but more likely to make you feel worse. I hope you get the real life support that you need x

[FeatheredHope]

But this isn’t just down to my mental illness it’s a genuine concern about mixing vaccines.

It really isn’t. It really IS about your mental illness and posting on MN like this is doing you no favours.

[Mrgrinch]

Due to severe anxiety around having AZ

But you're also anxious about mixing?

Sounds like it's your anxiety that needs treating. What help are you getting out of posting on here giving you?

[Louby08]

@Mrgrinch

Due to severe anxiety around having AZ

But you're also anxious about mixing?

Sounds like it's your anxiety that needs treating. What help are you getting out of posting on here giving you?

@Mrgrinch

I am. But I know I will have the Pfizer dose tomorrow.
I’ve had two appointments for AZ and have not been able to go through with it.

[thecatfromjapan]

The fact you are going to get CBT on the NHS + fortnightly meetings with your GP, while you wait for a psychologist means you've been assessed as quite a serious case, Louby.

I mean that kindly and supportively.

MH services are horrifically stretched.

But it's good. CBT will help. And you are taking steps. And you will acknowledge that your anxiety is a significant issue, with an awful, distorting effect. And you will take steps to improve.

Hey, why don't you try one of lovely wolfiefan's suggestions before bed?

[Louby08]

@thecatfromjapan

Hey, why don't you try one of lovely wolfiefan's suggestions before bed?

I will 🙂

[DixonD]

@Bryonyshcmyony

Oh stop it. I'm quite annoyed you've even been given the option. Think yourself lucky. You've got what you wanted, a Pfizer dose. Plenty of people would have liked the same. Sorry, I'll leave the thread, this is making me too cross.

This I’m across OP.

You’re incredibly lucky to have been offered Pfizer instead. Read some of the posts on here from posters desperate for this vaccine.

I’m lucky because being under 40, I did have Pfizer. But if I wasn’t, I would be quite upset by your posts.

Take the vaccine with absolute gratitude. Nothing is going to happen to you.

[Wolfiefan]

Can you even see that you ignore all mention of this being a MH issue and that MN doesn’t help you.
Your posting isn’t reducing the anxiety. It’s not about finding information. It’s feeding your MH issues OP. You need to recognise that and stop posting these threads whilst you seek help.

[DixonD]

*afraid, not across.

[TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross]

What's the issue with the AZ vaccine, apart from the extremely rare possibility of blood clots?

(I'm presuming here that you've done your research, risk-assessed sensibly, and concluded that most of your day to day activities carry a greater risk of harm than having the AZ vaccine does...)

[Louby08]

@TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross

(I'm presuming here that you've done your research, risk-assessed sensibly, and concluded that most of your day to day activities carry a greater risk of harm than having the AZ vaccine does...)

Yes because as you can probably tell from my posts (this thread and previous) I’m quite capable
of risk assessing sensibly.....

[Ilovemypyjamas2021]

Having now read your other threads you were extremely concerned about having a second AZ vaccine, got the option to change to another vaccine for your second dose based on your anxiety & now you’re concerned about getting that? I’m sorry but like I said before, anxiety or not, please consider yourself extremely fortunate that you’ve now been given other options the majority of us haven’t

[Wolfiefan]

Actually OP your poor MH means you’re not.
But still you won’t step away from MN and things that feed that illness.

[MarieIVanArkleStinks]

Is this the same OP who made and cancelled numerous appointments through not receiving their vaccine of choice? Apologies if I'm mixing this up with another poster, but the situation sounds familiar.

Any woman who's ever taken the contraceptive pill will have had a far greater chance of blood clots than the risk posed by these vaccines. And no inoculation is risk-free. The assessment you'll need to make is risk vs. benefits. For me that one's a no-brainer.

I don't see the point in mixing vaccines at all. Will you then need a third shot (ie second dose of Pfizer) to make it effective?

I'm not denigrating health anxiety. I suffered with this for a while myself after my mother died suddenly and unexpectedly. It's awful. But I agree with PPs that MN might not be the best place to deal with that.

[bumblenbean]

Hi OP, I have to agree with others that you are really lucky to have been given the opportunity to mix. I have bad anxiety (and OCD) too and was really worried about having my second AZ after the blood clot stuff came to light (and people constantly saying it was less effective) but I had no choice. I didn’t want to be half vaccinated so I went through with it. I would have jumped at a Pfizer second jab. I’m not begrudging you being offered it, but you do need to appreciate most people haven’t had that choice.

In terms of your anxiety it’s great you’re getting help; but I second others who have said these posts aren’t helping you. You don’t tend to engage with posters who try to offer you sensible advice and just refute any factual statements challenging your beliefs with the ‘yes but…’ type response your anxiety produces.

I really wish you the best- I know how awful anxiety is - but I think you would find any therapist would advise you to step away from social media (and possibly news etc altogether) until you get a better handle on things. Constant reassurance seeking (while understandable, I do it myself a lot!) is not only useless it’s actually counter productive and will just feed into the problem.

[Soverymuchfruit]

Ok. Here's the results of the preliminary study. AZ followed by Pfizer is a good combination. You will be well vaccinated. All is well.
www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01359-3

[TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross]

[quote Louby08]@TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross

(I'm presuming here that you've done your research, risk-assessed sensibly, and concluded that most of your day to day activities carry a greater risk of harm than having the AZ vaccine does...)

Yes because as you can probably tell from my posts (this thread and previous) I’m quite capable
of risk assessing sensibly.....[/quote]
I haven't read your previous threads 🤷‍♀️

So you got what you wanted - a different vaccine despite the advice against mixing them - and you're still not satisfied?

So what do you want?

[claretblue79]

Hope it all goes well for you OP. I know how hard living with anxiety is and it sounds like you're trying really hard to get better and you deserve a lot of credit for that. Wishing you well

[Laura54321]

Its a difficult decision. You like to think if the doctors are saying you can mix vaccines then it must be safe but its a new vaccine and no-one can guarantee you won't have side effects. Do you have anxiety around covid? Not sure if you're an at risk group but personally I stopped watching the news or TV a long time ago as the scare mongering is off the scale and its caused terrible anxiety for so many people.

[Soverymuchfruit]

Btw, for @bumblenbean and others wishing they had been offered Pfizer too: AZ is actually more effective than was first reported. It just takes longer to kick in - the studies started counting cases too soon after the jabs had been given. And it works much better with a longer gap between doses: the 8-12 week gap we use in the UK happens to be much better than the 3 weeks of the original trial.

Some numbers here (you can link through to the original papers if you don't trust Wikipedia but it's easier to read! )
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford%E2%80%93AstraZeneca_COVID-19_vaccine#Efficacy_and_effectiveness