Nhs England have asked the village pub to close temporarily

[CovidCorvid]

Pub say someone who visited the pub has since tested positive. Surely they don’t close pubs because of one case? It must be more?

It's just occurred to me that our village pub isn't doing test and trace.

It'll probably be Public Health England, not NHS England.

They’ve done another announcement. Nhs England told them one positive person visited the pub last weekend. All staff have been tested and are negative. They are carpet shampooing and cleaning like mad. They’re hoping to open on Weds.

Seems like total overkill for one case! Though reading between the lines it might be the person who visited last weekend knew they were positive but went to the pub anyway. I might be misinterpreting that. And I’m not sure why it would make any difference anyway.

I’m thinking of places with big footfall like supermarkets. They must have had cases where someone has been shopping and then tested positive. They don’t then shut Tesco for a week!

@AChickenCalledDaal

It'll probably be Public Health England, not NHS England.

Probably.

Yeah, I don't think they're telling the whole story there.

The staff have to re test on Tuesday and if they’re all negative again they can reopen. Heart breaking for a small pub which were expecting a busy day today with it being Father’s Day.

Na op they aren’t being honest, they are just giving a reason that doesn’t make them look bad

Every pub, hotel, restaurant, shop, supermarket will have has Covid cases, the streets would be empty if they were told to shut down.

If they are cleaning like that I’d think they had breached food safety regulations, do they serve meals?

That’s such a shame @CovidCorvid.

And it’s not their fault.

Not to mention you'd be closing every and entire schools for a deep clean every week...

Yes they serve meals but they’re talking about deep cleaning upholstery and carpets so I don’t think it’s a food regulation thing.

Yep...this current madness. At work, we have a socially distanced meeting room of two metres each desk, ventilated etc....one person tested positive and we all had to isolate. I thought putting these measures in was designed to stop it...oh and we are all double vaccinated as well. Madness.

This is why people are refusing to get tested

It doesn’t seem odd to me if it’s a small village pub where almost all the staff were likely to be working and in contact with the infected person on the night in question, that the result would be closure until confirmation that none of the staff required to be working to enable the pub to open had been given the all clear. You can’t open without staff to run the place. Supermarkets have far more employees.

A local pub to us, a member of kitchen staff tested positive, so all staff had to isolate. They closed for 2 weeks and took the time to do essential maintenance work that needed doing since reopening. Larger pubs can work in bubbles of 2 teams in case this happens, but not your small local pub unfortunately.

My local pub had a coronavirus case (I know because I got the track and trace alert after a visit ) but stayed open throughout.

Maybe it was one of the key staff who tested positive?

I can’t see how you can deep-clean against Covid - thoroughly ventilating everything (and perhaps wiping door knobs) is surely the best you can do?

@CovidCorvid

Yes they serve meals but they’re talking about deep cleaning upholstery and carpets so I don’t think it’s a food regulation thing.

Carpet shampooing?! My good all this insane theatre has to end soon surely. As if people are catching COVID from the carpets

@EllaBlaire

I’m not sure the NHS can request pubs to close… surely only councils can do that?

Yes. It would be local public health officials.

This is what our local place had to say about closing:

Important notice to all customers.

Unfortunately due to the following circumstances we are left with no choice but to close our premises for 48hours effective immediately.

We have just had a visit from our local Covid inspectors who, have informed us that one of our customers who entered our premises recently has tested positive with the most recent strain of covid-19.

Within this meeting we have been advised by Director of public health to shut for 48hours to carry out a full deep clean of our premises.

With this in mind we fully agree and will be closing immediately and not re opening our doors until 2:30pm Saturday.

Whilst we appreciate this will be an inconvenience to all those booked in that period I am sure you can understand that this situation is out of our hands.
And although out of our hands we fully support the need to protect both our staff and customers alike.

During our recent Covid inspection it was deemed we are doing everything necessary to keep both our customers and staff safe and following all government guidelines as well as extra precautions too.

We once again apologise and hope you all fully understand our situation and look forward to welcoming those booked from 2:30pm onwards this Saturday.

Our staff will be calling as many people as possible over the next few hours to cancel and rearrange bookings.

From the link posted near the start of the thread

"The Old Boat House, a popular Amble seafood restaurant with a 4.5 rating and hundreds of rave reviews on TripAdvisor, has informed customers it will be closed until next weekend after staff were ordered to self-isolate"

If wasn't ordered to close, it was closed because all staff had to SI

Why on Earth are they still asking for a deep clean when the virus is airborne?

Are schools also doing some deep cleaning for one case? I mean other children are also using the same desk/corridors etc…?

@KeepingTrack

Why on Earth are they still asking for a deep clean when the virus is airborne?

I did a lot of internet research on this recently when a friend told me she is still quarantining everything that comes into the house, and then wiping it all down, (which has always seemed like overkill to me). Seems that scientists are now agreed that whilst you CAN still catch it off a surface, the risk is very, very small.

I wonder if pubs are deep cleaning partly because they are not prepared to even take a tiny risk or because they want to be seen to be taking precautions?

Well, I’m currently in Cornwall, and at least half of the restaurants here are temporarily closed due to the outbreak. The Great British Summer is going to be very bumpy as all the young staff are not fully vaccinated.

Bloody hell. All the deep cleaning stuff is bonkers - as a pp said upthread, who catches covid from carpets? Seriously?! Does anyone think this is possible?

We have had at least 3 village pubs close in the last couple of weeks due to Covid. The pub my son works at had 4 people test positive, so pretty much everyone has had to self isolate. He then caught it and passed it on to his dad.

Seems that scientists are now agreed that whilst you CAN still catch it off a surface, the risk is very, very small

Can you post a link to that? Because my understand is that It grows on surfaces in lab conditions but is so delicate that it dies on touch. And you’d not be able to pick enough of it up by touching a surface even if didn’t.