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Vaccinated not to isolate if close contact

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Looneytune253 · 19/06/2021 14:34

Did I just hear this on the radio that the vaccinated won't have to isolate if they're a close contact any more. If so, that's great. Just completed one period of isolation while self employed and although the rest was nice I'm a bit skint now and dreading it happening again when I had a really low risk of contracting it from the contact.

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ifonly4 · 19/06/2021 14:37

I don't think it's set in stone, but probably the way to go.

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Looneytune253 · 19/06/2021 14:38

Yes I'd recently said it's going to have to change soon even if it's the daily LFT thing

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donaldbump · 19/06/2021 14:42

Anything said about children? In that they are not vaccinated so will they have to carry on isolating every time there is contact with positive case?

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Looneytune253 · 19/06/2021 14:47

@donaldbump it wasn't said but yes I'd assume so

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PracticingPerson · 19/06/2021 14:53

This will be an excellent opportunity to grow our own variant that can escape the vaccine if done whilst we have high circulating cases

It shouldn't happen until cases are low, but the government have done everything wrong so far so presumably will introduce this at the wrong time.

sleepwouldbenice · 19/06/2021 15:01

Yes but they have said likely not until all adults have been offered 2nd jab for fairness
Not sure 're kids

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Looneytune253 · 19/06/2021 15:27

@sleepwouldbenice I got the impression it was going through now

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3cats4poniesandababy · 19/06/2021 15:52

I was also under the impression it was once everyone had been over two jabs (and presumably had tge 3 weeks for it to become effective).

They can't bring it in before everyone has beme offered it that just creates a division in society. It isn't a healthy 20 year old fault they are low risk so weren't vaccinated when people of a higher risk were. The younger groups just being vaccinated weren't likely to be the people overwhelming the NHS if they caught covid yet stayed at home to reduce transmission just the same as a 50 year old who was more likely to needed hospitalisation. No the shoe is on the other foot no way should older more vulnerable people get special rules to allow them to continue as normal.

XenoBitch · 19/06/2021 15:54

Not sure I would be happy mingling with someone who was identified as a close contact but was deemed to be safe because they were vaccinated.

strangeshapedpotato · 19/06/2021 16:00

I'm surprised so few have picked up the way this government operates.

They leak various possible strategies and then watch to see what the public reaction to them is.

There's currently about 6 different "plans" for the future being discussed. This is just one possibility of many.

If there's a backlash against it, it was never contemplated and just made up by the papers. If it's popular then it was the plan all along.

Stuffin · 19/06/2021 16:02

@XenoBitch

Not sure I would be happy mingling with someone who was identified as a close contact but was deemed to be safe because they were vaccinated.

I guess that is where it comes down to personal choice and living with the virus.

It isn't going to go away. We have vaccinations and then personal choice.

I would be more than happy with that but we have had covid in the household and I didn't get it even when I was in close contact for days with a symptomatic person. And even then I really am happy to take my chances.

SpringRainbow · 19/06/2021 16:03

I believe they are already doing this in America, I don’t know about other counties.

In some ways it makes sense, however in other ways it feels like a massive u turn since we have been told for months that their is still a huge risk even with the vaccines.

If this was going to happen then they’ll have to back peddle a bit.

Tealightsandd · 19/06/2021 16:05

@PracticingPerson

This will be an excellent opportunity to grow our own variant that can escape the vaccine if done whilst we have high circulating cases

It shouldn't happen until cases are low, but the government have done everything wrong so far so presumably will introduce this at the wrong time.

This. Obviously it will be different once the majority is fully vaccinated.

No wonder other places are closing their doors to us, placing restrictions on entry from the UK.

We are the high risk country.

PracticingPerson · 19/06/2021 16:07

They need to get this third wave under control first.

Tealightsandd · 19/06/2021 16:10

Other countries are vaccinating over 12s. We haven't even started giving the vaccine to vulnerable children.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/10/children-disabilities-priority-vaccination-england-education-shielding

They disappeared more than a year ago and many are still out of sight. When the pandemic hit, 53,000 under-18s in England with disabilities that made them vulnerable to coronavirus began to shield away at home.

Kept off school long after their classmates went back, and away from friends, they have found their childhoods put on hold. And while the vaccine rollout gave high-risk adults some reprieve in the new year, those aged under 16, who have not been eligible for any vaccine, are still living in limbo.

donaldbump · 19/06/2021 16:46

Am feeling quite angry about the football fans out while vulnerable kids have been left. Sorry. Feeling quite losses off about it all right now.

lljkk · 19/06/2021 16:58

I believe they are already doing this in America

Paper tiger, a rule not enforced by anyone (say Americans)

Crunchymum · 19/06/2021 17:06

I am not sure if these dates are correct but if everyone over 18 is offered the vaccine by 19th July (and second one say 8 weeks later) then that takes us to Mid Sept but will be end of September before everyone can be considered fully vaccinated? Then it's bloody flu season again

although does flu still exist??

Imnothereforthedrama · 19/06/2021 17:10

Yeah I heard this was being looked into , apparently that’s what they do in America. Tbh if you’ve had both vaccine I agree .
I think it’s the start of making sure everyone has their vaccine now . All adults are being offered it so in the next few weeks I think there may be different rules for the vaccinated and non vaccinated.

Overthebow · 19/06/2021 20:08

@XenoBitch

Not sure I would be happy mingling with someone who was identified as a close contact but was deemed to be safe because they were vaccinated.

But if you’ve been vaccinated then surely your risk is low so it wouldn’t matter?

Overthebow · 19/06/2021 20:10

I think it’s a good idea and what we should be doing, once every adult has had the chance to be vaccinated. Then it’s up to people to choose to have the vaccine or have to continue to isolate.

HSHorror · 19/06/2021 20:14

Ideally a good idea but
40% of az will still get symtoms so i guess the q is how contagious they are.
Whereas in usa only moderna/pfizer which is more like 12% would get symtoms.

XenoBitch · 19/06/2021 20:17

But if you’ve been vaccinated then surely your risk is low so it wouldn’t matter?

I am not vaccinated. And some people are, but have no antibodies.

Overthebow · 19/06/2021 20:27

@XenoBitch

But if you’ve been vaccinated then surely your risk is low so it wouldn’t matter?

I am not vaccinated. And some people are, but have no antibodies.

Well when this happens everyone will have had the choice to get vaccinated or not and those who have chosen not to or unfortunately can’t get vaccinated for medical reasons will have to decide whether to mix or not. We can’t continue isolation forever and it makes sense for those vaccinated not to have to.

Frazzled2207 · 19/06/2021 21:21

We have to eventually move away from self isolations, except for those actually ill.
However if we’re going to have to do tests instead, I’m ok with this but it’s totally insane to suggest that only those vaccinated get to do the tests and those not vaccinated have to stay at home. How on earth would that ever be enforced and how could they make you do the tests in any case?
As pp said this is the system in the US (not sure about the tests) and there is zero enforcement.

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