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Good News 14: Keeping our spirits up, just a bit longer.

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hugoagogo · 15/06/2021 21:31

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TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 11/07/2021 16:37

Bordois, thank you, your rate of growth figures are keeping me going!

Cafeaulait27 · 12/07/2021 10:48

Can I ask a question in the safe place that is this thread…

Does anyone know, if we did hit 100k cases a day, how would this look in deaths?

I’m always pretty optimistic about the vaccines and support opening up this summer, and believe Vallance and Whitty when they say the NHS can cope, but now as cases are so high, even with the vaccine deaths are going up so I just wondered how many daily deaths are we talking here? And hospital admissions? Or is it just that no one really knows?

I’m hoping that with football and school finishing we’ll peak soon and won’t get too 100k cases a day, but am I being unrealistic here?

Firefly2021 · 12/07/2021 11:01

I’m wondering this too - thanks for asking @Cafeaulait27

Bordois · 12/07/2021 11:18

Admissions are currently approx 2.8% of cases, I've not seen a similar figure for deaths though.

Whatever9999 · 12/07/2021 12:20

@Cafeaulait27

Can I ask a question in the safe place that is this thread…

Does anyone know, if we did hit 100k cases a day, how would this look in deaths?

I’m always pretty optimistic about the vaccines and support opening up this summer, and believe Vallance and Whitty when they say the NHS can cope, but now as cases are so high, even with the vaccine deaths are going up so I just wondered how many daily deaths are we talking here? And hospital admissions? Or is it just that no one really knows?

I’m hoping that with football and school finishing we’ll peak soon and won’t get too 100k cases a day, but am I being unrealistic here?

If we say deaths now are from cases an average of 2weeks ago we were averaging 15000 cases/day.

100000/15000= 6.67
Then multiply that by yesterday's 7 day average of 29 gives just under 200 a day.

herecomesthsun · 12/07/2021 12:39

Only Connect is on tonight. New series. Well it cheered ME up Smile

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 12/07/2021 13:54

I don’t think you can extrapolate from cases to deaths unless the demographics stay the same, both in terms of age group and proportion jabbed/not jabbed.
Looking at how cases are levelling off despite schools still being open and the football, I don’t think 100k cases per day is very likely, at least through the summer.

Cafeaulait27 · 12/07/2021 14:31

@TheCountessofFitzdotterel I love it when people say reassuring things like this 🙌❤️

I was thinking the same, as cases aren’t going up at the same rate anymore, but I’m always wishful thinking so thought I might just be doing that again…

Any of you going to watch the briefing later?

Bordois · 12/07/2021 16:03

I'm still on the fence as to whether we will hit this 100k a day, but what I am certain of is 100k cases now is nowhere near as serious as it was before.

Bordois · 12/07/2021 16:05

Rate of growth has increased slightly to 28.1 but Wales are reporting double figures today so not necessarily cause for alarm

Bordois · 12/07/2021 16:14

Only 6 deaths reported today though

herecomesthsun · 12/07/2021 19:03

@Whatever9999

Apparently SAGE broadly agree with your calculations Smile www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/07/12/covid-deaths-likely-peak-200-day-summer-say-government-scientists/. - up to 200 deaths but, they think, it could be a lot less than that.

And SAGE are optimistic that people will be sensible

"Scientists making the models assumed there would be no "big bang" of people abandoning face masks and social distancing.

Instead, Sage predicts that people will gradually ease their way back to increased social activity over several months and that people will maintain some mitigation behaviors - such as mask wearing and avoiding high-risk indoor events - on their own accord."

I'm actually feeling a lot more optimistic now, having heard some of the broadcast, and the thinking that has gone into this.

Bordois · 12/07/2021 19:41

Are you joining the happiness patrol now herecomesthesun and 🤣

PomRuns · 12/07/2021 19:53

Happiness patrol 😂 I love that.

@MRex is correct, no reports at all re overwhelming ambulance waits or admissions in London.

herecomesthsun · 12/07/2021 19:59

I post good news items on here.

I post stuff that is more mixed in tone, of which there is a fair bit given erm various aspects of the situation, elsewhere, often on the data thread.

psychomath · 12/07/2021 23:07

[quote MRex]25.1% of the world have now had at least one jab: ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations[/quote]
Really?? That's amazing, had no idea it was that high.

Whatever9999 · 13/07/2021 06:04

[quote herecomesthsun]@Whatever9999

Apparently SAGE broadly agree with your calculations Smile www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/07/12/covid-deaths-likely-peak-200-day-summer-say-government-scientists/. - up to 200 deaths but, they think, it could be a lot less than that.

And SAGE are optimistic that people will be sensible

"Scientists making the models assumed there would be no "big bang" of people abandoning face masks and social distancing.

Instead, Sage predicts that people will gradually ease their way back to increased social activity over several months and that people will maintain some mitigation behaviors - such as mask wearing and avoiding high-risk indoor events - on their own accord."

I'm actually feeling a lot more optimistic now, having heard some of the broadcast, and the thinking that has gone into this.[/quote]
Glad to know my maths is still my strong point.
As for the people easing in, I do think that's what going to happen. To begin with we'll probably see relatively small numbers of people ditching the masks (I'm exempt so haven't been wearing one anyway, so I'll eventually be ditching the lanyard). As those uncovered faces become more normalised and more people have the one or two times when they forget to put one on, the percentage not wearing masks will increase, until eventually its only the small minority still wearing them (for whatever reason, be that they are vulnerable or they are simply risk averse). I would imagine that process is going to take several months it won't happen in an instant.

lazymum99 · 13/07/2021 10:44

I do feel that the mask gives me a false sense is security. The protection it gives is minimal to yourself but it protects others. Unless you get hold of the ones the NHS uses.
I personally think that for a while if I’m not wearing a mask I will be more careful

Bordois · 13/07/2021 16:22

Rate of growth down to 26.6% today.

50 deaths reported, but numbers seem a bit up and down at the moment ( iirc Wales double up on mondays) so its worth keeping an eye on the weekly trend instead of daily reports.

Whatever9999 · 13/07/2021 16:35

The rate of increase in hospilisations seems to have at least stabilised and maybe slowed a little too. Which would follow on from the increase in cases stabilising and slowing in the last week, deaths should follow (in fact do already seem to be following) in the next week. Depending on whether you looking at 7 day or on the day numbers doubling time is currently 12-17 days. Think we can safely say there's no way in hell that we're going to get to 100000/day by Monday (or did they once.more change that prediction)

EasterIssland · 13/07/2021 16:58

Don't think anyone from the government or from twitter (math people who investigate the data) did ever say we'd hit 100k by Monday.

Gov said maybe 100k by August.

I've only read it on MN and always claimed by the same person

Whatever9999 · 13/07/2021 17:05

@easterissland that's who I was talking about, I'm sure they'll be along with a new date sometime soon.

EasterIssland · 13/07/2021 17:08

[quote Whatever9999]@easterissland that's who I was talking about, I'm sure they'll be along with a new date sometime soon.[/quote]
1st august, but I believe sources close to the government think it might happen. however, the government predicts 2k hospitals a day and in mn I've read 20k a day... must have been noise.

Personal Good news 11 days left to hug my mum... 565 days so far since I last day... pulling out my sn from nursery one week in advance so in case we get a call for self isolation.. as no need to self isolate post coming back from Spain we'll isolate him before :D ... send me strength next week with work and toddler at home! :D

LivinLaVidaLoki · 13/07/2021 18:58

@EasterIssland so excited for you!!!

Don't blame you taking ds out from nursery early. I've two and a half weeks until I see my family so looking at pulling ds out for the last two days (we travel 8 days after school breaks up) after all what do they actually ever do?

I can't wait. I'm beyond happy.

Cafeaulait27 · 14/07/2021 15:08

2/3s of adults are now fully vaccinated! 🙌