Anyone else not going to test children anymore

[Baileysforchristmas]

My daughter is 15, she said none of her friends are testing anymore. Why should I make her test twice a week now? All it will do is stop her going to school and us getting on with our lives, it will also stop her bubble going to school and she will get blamed. My daughter didn’t go to school for 3 months while flights were coming into the country from other parts of the world which could do as they please. Why should I take the risk of putting my daughter’s life on hold, also the more we test the more the numbers go up, Europe’s not testing secondary school children twice a week so obviously their numbers won’t be showing as high.

Guilt tripping is so tireseome. Change the record.

I have not ever tested younger dc at all (under 10) but we absolutely test older dd 14 because it's not an issue for her.

I can't get my head around your logic op

You said you won't test your dd and then she won't be blamed for bubbles bursting or any other issues.

So let's say your dd does contract covid, she goes into school, passes it into the bubble, the staff, perhaps any other staff on site because it's madly contagious, she may or may not fall ill but what about the "seeds" she's then firmley planted in the school community?
Leading to raging covid spots and possible surge testing, local restrictions?

When one minute taking the test may have prevented all of the that hassle.

If any dc find its hard and it'd upsetting them, don't test but surely if they don't find it hard it's the simplest tool we have in our armour to prevent out breaks?

I can't understand why you wouldn't encourage it.

Well mines just left school so won't be testing anymore . If he was still at school he'd be testing because some teachers still haven't had the vaccine and he's always thought it's the responsible thing to do

I've never known so many mardy teens as there are on mn. 2 mins a couple of times a week and a bit of discomfort.

I feel sorry for all the little children who have to do pcrs because nurseries send them home at the drop of a hat. My dn is 18 months and has had to have about 4 or 5 so far. It's not like you can explain to them why they're having a swab down their throat and up their noses

Unless my teen had some sort of sensory issue I'd be really unimpressed with their refusal

We’re still testing twice a week because it really is no big deal and we’re in an area with high and rising cases. I’ve given up logging them though.

Surely out of respect for those who simply can not be vaccinated due to medical reasons or the elderly with waning protection you would want to make sure your DC aren’t spreading the virus wouldn’t you?

Honestly some of the juvenile responses on this thread make me cringe. I swear we’ve been infiltrated by the tinfoil hat brigade.

We are in a global crisis, we have some simple tools at our disposal, to try and keep on top of the fight, masks, distance, fresh air, moving air around, and lat flow tests.

I was actually hugely sceptical about them to begin with but now I've changed my mind.
I've seen how in personal circs 100s students have don't them and been fine but they have picked out a few cases (confirmed by pcr) and helped to keep our community safe.
Unfortunately I don't think many students do them now at all.

Personally I think all these things need to be done far more strictly on a stop start basis.
So when cases go down, relax these things but when they start to go up, I think lat flows should be compulsorily unless dc can't do them, masks, on line etc.

Then switch back again.

@osbertthesyrianhamster

Guilt tripping is so tireseome. Change the record.

Labelling something as ‘guilt tripping’ simply means you know you are in the wrong, but don’t care, and think calling names is an answer to people pointing out to you that you are wrong

• the wise, even double vaccine doesn't rule out catching it.

Much of it is and has always been down to viral load, teachers have been quite lucky so far because children have not had it but that's changed now with delta.

[quote 0None0]@BogrollBOGOF

Once he has grown up, yes, I think he will feel ashamed of himself.

Can you imagine how he is going h to justify that when his grandchildren question him.

‘Well, I didn’t enjoy the lock gown, so I decided to refuse to contribute to the national and international effort to bring the pandemic to a close. Because what I was being asked to do was a little bit uncomfortable for a moment, twice a week, for a few months’

I suspect that in the years and decades to come he will experience far more discomfort trying to justify this to himself, and hide it and cover up to others[/quote]
The only one who shouldn't feel shame is you for your continued scaremongering and hyperbole. I've seen you on other threads and don't believe half of what you post...

We have very few cases locally, none at school since back from half term (I work at the school so I know) and my teenage DSs test themselves once a week on Sundays. If cases go up locally, they will test twice a week.

I test once a week as well. Will increase if needed.

I think it makes sense to keep on testing regularly, as cases can spike very quickly.

Back in November-December, cases in my school exploded. In your shoes I'd have a chat with DD and explain why maybe she should test once for now, and more often if cases go up. I'm sure she'll understand.

We will have to live with this virus forever as we do other diseases, testing twice a week only shows you don't have the virus at the point of test if it is accurate, testing is not compulsory, borders are not properly controlled - other activities do not require testing so there is little point to it. Either we have strong measure to get rid of the virus such as Asia or we don't . Half way measures do not work - there has been enough restrictions and impositions on the young.

@twelly well said

Lateral flow tests done because DD had a cold that she passed on to me and DP. I do them anyway for work. All negative, big sigh of relief!

Yesterday I had to go to GP as I've been feeling rotten and getting really short of breath when walking tiny distances (kitchen to living room and we don't live in downtown abbey sized home), not usually a hypochondriac but at 26 weeks pg decided I should see someone. GP suspects covid rather than cold and when I mentioned my negative LFT she informed me that they are producing a huge number of false negatives. Proper covid test down and now awaiting results.

Thoroughly annoyed with the false sense of security these tests are giving!

Also on Delta effecting children more, it doesn’t seem to be the case from data from India

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-india-57404807

Labelling something as ‘guilt tripping’ simply means you know you are in the wrong, but don’t care, and think calling names is an answer to people pointing out to you that you are wrong

Who's calling names? It's true, I don't give a fuck anymore, but in contrast to your believe that people who don't do as you do feel wrong or ashamed, you're incorrect there. I see nothing at all wrong about not giving a stuff about testing or restrictions or any of that. I really don't. I've never done a test as I've never had Covid symptoms, nor have my kids. I find it ludicrous to test people who are not ill en mass so I don't and they don't, either. Not a jot of shame attached to that, either. The only reason I comply with most restrictions in public is so I can do things I want but the second I don't have to I don't. If I see others throwing them out the window I join right in with aplomb.

I'll have a Covid test so I can go abroad or if I had Covid symptoms. But otherwise, nah.

[quote Baileysforchristmas]Also on Delta effecting children more, it doesn’t seem to be the case from data from India

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-india-57404807[/quote]
I can’t follow your link, but for information, my school is closed with dozens of cases in all year groups. This has been identified by PHE as the delta variant. More than half of the children and teens who have tested positive have no symptoms. Just under half are physically ill. Roughly 5-10 % are very ill, as in, bedridden for 7+ days.

One boy attended online lessons today, having been too ill for the last two weeks. He lasted about half an hour, before his mum messaged me to say he’d gone back to bed and gone to sleep. He is 15

So similar to the first wave in how hard it has hit our individual children, but it spreads hugely faster

I don’t understand some of the responses on here. The lower we can get cases the more normality we all get. We all test twice weekly including my six year old to try and avoid passing it on. Yes it’s a pain, yes LFTs miss positive cases, yes the government need to sort out a million other things to control covid but none of these for me are a reason not to test. Some of the attitudes on this thread are so frustrating.

@Thewiseoneincognito

Surely out of respect for those who simply can not be vaccinated due to medical reasons or the elderly with waning protection you would want to make sure your DC aren’t spreading the virus wouldn’t you?

Honestly some of the juvenile responses on this thread make me cringe. I swear we’ve been infiltrated by the tinfoil hat brigade.

Exactly. Especially the last point

Me, neither, Amy and wata.

The LF tests used in the UK have been discredited in the US, and withdrawn:

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/11/us-health-agency-gives-innova-lateral-flow-covid-tests-scathing-review

I can't see the point of bothering with a test that's so unreliable.

Are the people saying they would never test their kids, does this include if they have symptoms?

@ineedaholidaynow

Are the people saying they would never test their kids, does this include if they have symptoms?

You get a PCR if you have symptoms. Mine haven't had symptoms. Nor have we. We do need PCR's but then, it's because we want to go abroad.