Greater "this is not a lockdown" Manchester

[CityGirl182]

Anyone else sick of us being treated like this. I'm in one of the regions where "variants of concern are spreading" and am really annoyed by the messaging.
There's surge testing and a vaccine boost, although apparently we're not getting extra vaccine so surely this just means second vaccines will be delayed?
And we're being advised to avoid travel out of area and avoid meeting people inside. But you've got Andy Burnham out saying it's advisory and not a law. So do you want us to stop meeting inside or not? If it's only advisory then you've got some people bending over backwards cancelling plans and feeling conflicted about what we should be doing, and then there's some people just carrying on as normal. What's the point of this? If the government actually believes people need to do these things then why not say that and stop the mixed messaging and placing the guilt on us...

My son is invited to a party next week that's at an indoor play centre, do we go anymore?
Does my husband go to the gym? Can meet people in their garden? And no indication of how long we're being asked to do this, yet again...

Some of us want the vaccine but can't sodding have it.
Do not assume that ALL of those who haven't had the vaccine is because they don't want it!
Some of those people are and were high risk for covid.

NOT ALL who are critically vulnerable have had the jab, and people who assume that this is not the case are really frustrating.

As someone with a lung condition who can't have any of the jabs the lack of understanding on this part is rather frustrating. Throw in living in an area they are calling all adults for non symptom covid testing, and complacency creep or sheer arrogance. The whole covid situation is an absolute mess as far as I am concerned. Especially as i work with the general public and there is no possibility of working from home.

I am relying on others to be sensible so i don't end up a statistic.
Not a situation i enjoy tbh. But the choices i have is quit my job and be forced to job hunt via universal credit or continue in the role I am in. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. I am pretty damn sure that i am not the only person stuck in this situation.

[quote XingMing]@LadyCatStark, and some people seem to think that Cornwall and the Southwest is a playground area where unicorns roam and they can behave as they like. Come here, our businesses need your visit, please have a good time, but play nicely. Is that so difficult?[/quote]
What’s that got to do with anything?

@LadyCatStark

Thanks, I do have a bit of a bee in my bonnet, but it’s so frustrating that we’re here again getting the blame for something that’s completely out of our control! No one blamed Londoners when things were really bad there.

You mean the ones that got on trains out and spread the virus round the country?

Xing I have no interest in visiting Cornwall and boosting your businesses, I'd much rather boost my local businesses so I'm sure you'll be pleased to know you've got one less northerner to deal with.

It starts with taking your litter home for disposal. Cornwall has a long coastline, full of idyllic coves. But most of them are not covered by refuse collectors, because the vehicles that collect refuse don't fit down small lanes so can't get to them. So the locals take rubbish and wrappers home to bin or recycle. Is it asking too much of visitors that they try to do the same? rather than just abandoning their litter? Most coves won't even have a loo, but there will usually be a bush behind which a person can have a pee, but nappies etc need to be bagged and taken home. PLEASE.

Sounds like you want to rant about tourism.

Maybe start your own thread.

Another North Westerner here, still following the rules. 2nd jab tomorrow, DP had his 2nd 2 weeks ago.

We aren't even socialising inside yet. We meet friends for walks and picnics but that's it. Still WFH and driving where we need to go - no public transport. Social distancing, hand washing and masks are continuing. Haven't been abroad since October 2019.

Failing to see how we are responsible for the spread of this virus.

KurtWilde, your money your choice... but it is worth a visit. Not more beautiful than Luskentyre for example, but eye-popppingly lovely nevertheless.

@XingMing

It starts with taking your litter home for disposal. Cornwall has a long coastline, full of idyllic coves. But most of them are not covered by refuse collectors, because the vehicles that collect refuse don't fit down small lanes so can't get to them. So the locals take rubbish and wrappers home to bin or recycle. Is it asking too much of visitors that they try to do the same? rather than just abandoning their litter? Most coves won't even have a loo, but there will usually be a bush behind which a person can have a pee, but nappies etc need to be bagged and taken home. PLEASE.

OK, should I ever be allowed out of the north west to spread my dirty germs around to the rest of the rule abiding country and I end up in Cornwall, I most definitely will take my litter home with me .

@XingMing

KurtWilde, your money your choice... but it is worth a visit. Not more beautiful than Luskentyre for example, but eye-popppingly lovely nevertheless.

I've been to Cornwall before, but with attitudes like yours tarring everyone with the same brush with your insulting guide on how to be a responsible tourist, I'll happily give it a miss now. Yorkshire also has some stunning places and a booming tourist industry. Do you think we don't also suffer from inconsiderate tourists or is that just Cornwall?

@XingMing

I live in Cornwall, where Covid rates have generally stayed low through most months of the pandemic. It's interesting that people who have travelled here for a break think our hygiene rules are stricter than Manchester.... give your head a wobble, and understand that because hygiene rules have been followed more closely here, that MIGHT just have a bearing on why our infection rates are so much lower. So just follow the fucking rules... get the vaccine x 2... get it done, stay a safe distance apart, wash your hands and let's all kiss it goodbye.

So glad you cleared that up for us. All us northerners have been sat with our thumbs up our arses for the past year.

Thank you very much, it is greatly appreciated, as I am sure it would be if you visited the NE, S, or the East coast or stayed in the NW. I only get agitated because the SW seems to be the honeypot destination ATM, and SOME, not all, visitors are immensely inconsiderate.

@XingMing

Been to Cornwall before and can't be bothered driving there again. I have stunningly beautiful places about 2 hours away from me. Have you heard of the Lake District? Anglesey?

I honestly can't figure out whether you want people to come visit or not xing
Although you are mostly convincing me that cornwall folk are as anti tourist and as unfriendly as they are rumoured to be. Which is probably not your goal at all.

It's no good advising against travelling out of area now; it's everywhere. The horse has bolted. If the government had cared about keeping the variant out... well. They would have done more sooner.
I'm not in an affected area, but I will be broadly carrying on as usual with due diligence.

Ooo Anglesey is stunning...

Ditto re driving. Southeners can keep Cornwall we are spoilt for choices here. We'll keep those.

@XingMing

It starts with taking your litter home for disposal. Cornwall has a long coastline, full of idyllic coves. But most of them are not covered by refuse collectors, because the vehicles that collect refuse don't fit down small lanes so can't get to them. So the locals take rubbish and wrappers home to bin or recycle. Is it asking too much of visitors that they try to do the same? rather than just abandoning their litter? Most coves won't even have a loo, but there will usually be a bush behind which a person can have a pee, but nappies etc need to be bagged and taken home. PLEASE.

Ah, that will definitely be us pesky North-Westerners, soz about that. We don't have bins or toilets so we usually just throw it all out of the window. I'll have a word with the North West to stop behaving like savages in Cornwall. Please keep these ace top tips coming, XingMing!

Name i have lost count of how many tourists i have spoken to in the last 2 weeks that have come from essex or surry or oxfordshire.
Yeah the horse has completely bolted.

I am just grateful the ones i have encountered have been in the arse end of nowhere and outside. But still.

I'm from the area. On holiday as the guidelines changed. Wasn't planning much indoor meeting until double jabbed. Otherwise going on as normal. Hope it doesn't affect summer holiday plans but it didn't last year.

I'm desperate to get away. Desperate.
I'm going to hold off even booking a UK break, for now. (or, book super last minute). Who knows what is going to happen

@XingMing

I am not suggesting that you haven't followed the rules to the letter, but some people in the NW have clearly ignored them. We have friends in Lancashire, but they despair of the element who think they are immune to rules and above vaccination. I have lived in the North, but in Sheffield.

And some people in the SW haven't followed the rules, as is the case with people in the SE, the Midlands, the North East, Scotland, Wales and NI? Your anecdotal evidence from your 'friends' isn't determinative. There are a variety of factors as to why the NW has been more adversely affected than other parts of the UK, including the SE - population density being one.

Oh FFS this narrative needs to stop ,when the northwest has high rate,s of virus it's always because us thick northerners are to stupid to follow the ,rules don't understand the importance blah blah,when rates were high in the south before and after Xmas it was because it was a new varient ,and we can't possibly lock London down ,etc ,people all over the country are not following the rules and guidelines,it's a virus it's spreads 🤷

@XingMing

Well, somebody or some folk, in your community are not following the rules or accepting the vaccine, because otherwise there would not be so much contagion. Transmission vectors are fairly cut and dried, decided months ago. Please feel free to stay at home. The county of Cornwall only has 20 max intensive care beds. These are often filled with idiots taking on physical challenges far beyond their fitness. Most of them will get better, even if they end up quadraplegically disabled.

Shall we compare the demographics of Cornwall and the Bolton ( ie where I live ) ? I expect even in Cornwall people are not following the rules ,but the two areas are very different it's just not comparable.

I don't live in Cornwall or the area this thread is about but DF lives in Cornwall and it is pretty empty for about half the year, we go down each winter to visit and it's like the arse end of nowhere. DS lives in Leeds and it's always busy as it's a large city and usually higher case rates than where I live in Northants, our case rates are usually in the middle somewhere, it's the demographics of the area and population not misbehaving people as people who live in sparsely populated areas seem to think.

@XingMing

I am not suggesting that you haven't followed the rules to the letter, but some people in the NW have clearly ignored them. We have friends in Lancashire, but they despair of the element who think they are immune to rules and above vaccination. I have lived in the North, but in Sheffield.

You think every single person in the south west has followed the rules then? How naive of you.

The south west is much more sparsely populated than the north west and there is less poverty. That's why there are lower rates, not because you're more well behaved.