Exactly how much are our youngsters expected to give up?

[StayAGhost]

So after not been able to do her GCSE's, been locked down for 18 months, not able to grow and develop as a teenager should, no concerts, no Meeting with friends, no shopping or general hanging round, no holidays, no seeing grandparents the NCS have now CANCELLED their camp
For a virus that does NOT affect the young

Exactly when us enough enough??

DD sobbing in bedroom, this was what got her thru 14 assessments in 3 weeks

To take from her is cruel

And SO UNNECESSARY

I’ve not heard of this, but if it’s like a residential for older dc then that is very hard.

Year 6 here went on PGL and loved it, such a good break.

If I’ve got the wrong end of the stick ignore me

@MooseBreath

They're expected to give up their youth. At this point, the restrictions are hugely disproportionate. To top it off, those they are protecting are largely ungrateful and whinging that they can't do everything they want to now that they're vaccinated (not all, obviously). I really feel for the young. Their futures are looking decidedly grim.

oddly I dont know anyone who isnt grateful

Only on MN....

It is utterly shit. Our young people are having a disproportionately bad time of this.

Absolutely agree op. Our 2 been really stoic both had a good cry only once each on the cancellation of much looked forward to school trips 😢. Nothing fancy just basic school camps that pretty much all of us older generations went on and enjoyed (even my 70 something dad went on these) and remember into adulthood. But for our teens? Nope.

@sleepwouldbenice Have you read some of the threads on here lately? Gratitude isn't something that young adults, teens, and children are receiving.

Young people generally have had a terrible time and this is very likely to have serious long term effects
High time we got back to normal

And it's just the residential section that is affected...all the actual activities are pretty much going ahead, just not being away for the first week

Dd missed out on NCS last year. We were refunded abd she also got to attend a watered down week in October which was free.
I thought they did the best they could in the circumstances
Didn't bother applying this year as it would have been difficult to fit in around family holidays.
It is shit for young people of course but they have their whole lives ahead of them at least.

That's life. It can change in an instant. My father turned 16 three days before a military coup overthrew the government in his home country. One day you're a normal teenager larking about with friends the next you get shot on sight if you're out after curfew.

The pandemic has been shit for pretty much everyone.

So how do you expect teens to attend with no adults present? Oh that’s right, you expect adults to take the risk in order for your kids to live normal lives. Stop being so selfish, you can’t ask others to sacrifice themselves for your kids.

Oh no that's rubbish for them. Fwiw I am at the stage of just letting my y11 drink cider down the park now. Its pretty much the only activity left!!!

My two are 19 and 17. 19 yr old’s lost her apprenticeship in hairdressing. 17yr old has just dropped out of A levels with nothing lined up. Both on antidepressants. 19yr old has taken 2 overdoses this year. I don’t know if our family will ever recover from the trauma of this past year.
ECV 17 yr old couldn’t even get referred for a vaccine by his GP surgery despite the fact that every time our local ITU is crumbling I get pulled from my job to go and work there in the midst of it all.
I’ve lost colleagues and friends and so so many patients it’s been brutal. Then coming home and trying to avoid the family so I didn’t give them anything and also being just so numb and exhausted that I couldn’t even eat in the evenings, just drink a few cups of tea and go to bed.
Hideous time.
And these kids will never get their time back.
DD said that I predicted this at Christmas 2019. DSs school year was the one that missed out on every single thing throughout his time at school and apparently I joked that he would be the year that had GCSEs cancelled. Ha!
God it’s so depressing.

And these kids will never get their time back
Nobody will. My Aunty died of a heart attack a couple of weeks ago. She’s wasted the last year and a half of her life sitting in the house. My great-uncle used to do hobbies but Covid has sucked up the last couple of years when he would have been physically capable and now he’ll never do his hobbies again. And I had my maternity leave with my little one, it’s the only time I’ll ever have to spend with my child before the endless nursery-school-work cycle begins, and that time has been taken away from me. It’s been crap for everyone but it’s just tough innit?

The problem is that we’ve come to regard this peaceful luxurious life that we’ve had in western countries for the last 70 years as normal, when actually it’s extremely abnormal and it’s surprising it lasted as long as it did.

The problem is that we’ve come to regard this peaceful luxurious life that we’ve had in western countries for the last 70 years as normal, when actually it’s extremely abnormal and it’s surprising it lasted as long as it did.

I don't disagree, but actually, in the grand scheme of things, even the pandemic hasn't been as bad as many things that could have happened. If we're still worrying about our kids missing out on NCS camps and year 11 proms, we actually have a lot to be grateful for. Yes, it has been shit for them and shit for all of us, but they're still first world problems.

School residential trips are still allowed though aren't they? My kids are still due to go away with their schools in a couple of weeks.

There’s being allowed and being practical, though.

I suspect NCS will be a total shitshow this year, given the big problem we have with Covid in that age group at the moment. That’s only going to get worse over the next couple of months so the chances of spending 10 days of it at home self isolating are quite high.

[quote MooseBreath]@sleepwouldbenice Have you read some of the threads on here lately? Gratitude isn't something that young adults, teens, and children are receiving.[/quote]
My teens have missed out on lots, Decimated exams, proms, significant birthdays in lockdown
But, in real life, I don’t know anyone who doesn’t appreciate everyone’s sacrifice. They feel appreciated for what they have done.
They also know some adults,and some kids, are idiots and to be ignored

@StayAGhost

Use135644 they've cancelled it coz of the virus

You know the one the has a negligible affect on healthy teens

Which one is that?

Please don't tell me we have a new virus, on top of Covid? The very last thing we need!

You can't be talking about Covid because of course

a) Some of the vulnerable are also the young. Including CEV children.

b) Losing a parent or other much loved vulnerable or elderly family member very much does have effect on the young.

c) Not being able to get hospital care for car accidents, cancer diagnoses, or broken bones (due to hospitals being at capacity) impacts on all ages, including the young (both healthy and vulnerable young).

And, finally

d) Long Covid.

Our local schools have all been told they can’t run residentials. Think they were concerned with insurance cover

I don't know if it makes a huge difference risk wise if they're on a residential? They're all in school together. I suppose it's concerns about outbreaks whilst away and/or spreading cases from a higher risk to lower risk area?

Thinking about it, perhaps it's fears over potential adult staff sickness.

I wonder how our parents and grandparents coped ?

Have spoken with your child over the last 18months to manage their expectations?

Parent up, life is hard,and full off disappointments

What emotional life skills have you being teaching?

This is perfect opportunity to build resiliency

I get that it’s tough for many people including children.

However I don’t get the ‘how much are they expected to give up’ as if this has been decided by people. It hasn’t been decided by people but by a huge massive global pandemic!

You can’t really escape that, no matter how much you might want to. And no at no point could the young just about about their lives and let the old die. It just doesn’t work like that!

Maybe your family should all read Anne's Frank's diary together and do a compare and contrast to covid

I really feel for the young people and I empathize with your daughter. It’s really sad that they are missing so much but can we please remember that just because your teen is healthy and would likely breeze through COVID not all teens are so fortunate.

Teenagers have lost out, there life has been turned upside down, many have felt totally isolated . I feel the impact on them has been enormous, they have been locked away like we all have to protect the old and vulnerable who have been protected now for several months by the vaccine, many of whom seem to do what they want, holidays, socialising etc. Meanwhile many teenagers have been subjected to an abnormal and uncertain exam situation which has confused them. I feel that teenagers and children have given up far to much