Are wealthy areas prioritised for Pfizer and poorer areas given AZ?

[BigCoat]

I'm talking about the 40 plus group.

I live in between an affluent and a disadvantaged town.
The affluent area has always received the Pfizer vaccine at its vaccine centre and the other area has always received AZ. I have had both AZ doses.

I have a relative who lives in a different affluent area in another part of the country. She's had Pfizer and seemed surprised we received AZ.

I would like to hear how allocations are decided. Is it a post code lottery or are there those of you in well to do areas only offered AZ and vice versa?

no

what difference does it make

No blood clot issue has been reported with pzifer. If you are unlucky enough to get a blood clot with AZ you have about a 20% chance of dying.

@Bluntness100

Why do you think the army is doing the allocation?

Becayse Boris did a press conf and announced it.

You misunderstood (hardly surprising as the man can barely string a sentence together). PHE does the allocation.

@CrimsonImp

So your extrapolating from a sample size of 2 that the fact that one gives AZ and the other gives Pfizer is down to local demographics, not storage facilities or any of the other far more sensible reasons.

In short, yes, which is why I wanted to hear a variety of experiences from across the UK.

The question should be:

Are those over 40 in wealthy areas able to choose the type of vaccine they receive while those in poorer areas are being told take AZ or have nothing?

I live in a posh London borough. Royals use my vaccination centre. I got AZ along with the posh people. Go figure. It is down to supply and logistics.

Minus -78 degrees to store Pfizer

I live in a very affluent area, I got AZ. My mum also lives in an affluent area, she also got AZ. I had my second dose at a mass vaccination centre, which was offering both AZ and Pfizer, coincidentally, that is located in a less affluent area.

What you get depends on supply and the storage facilities available at the place you get vaccinated.

I agree with PP, this is a very poor attempt to denigrate the AZ vaccine.

It depends where you go and what storage facilities are available. Then what the supply and manufacturing situation is. Then whether it is a first or second jab (you have to give the same brand for a second dose).
Adding wealth and social class into that would be an administrative nightmare.

The EU piss me off about this

My local vaccination, serving a very mixed demographic, had both when I had my second dose, a couple of weeks ago. First doses were in the Pfizer queue, regardless of age.

Probably not the answer that would have you ribbing your thighs with incandescent glee, though, OP.

The only difference is that the Pfizer vaccines are only going to the GP hubs (or inside hospital, but that is different).
This might be true where you are , but not everywhere. Our GP hub hasn't done a single Pfizer (because of storage/batch size). On the other hand the GP hub where I vaccinate does both (but not Moderna because they feel having 3 vaccines on site increases the risk of mix-ups.

What @WiseUpJanetWeiss said. It’s about availability of stocks and storage facilities.

Why would you think it has anything to do with how affluent an area is? These vaccines are being provided by the NHS. People’s income is irrelevant.

FWIW I had AZ at a hub in a large town, which is know as being very affluent indeed but has some fairly deprived areas.

So if you go to a GP hub you have a good chance of getting Pfizer, whereas if you go to a mass hub or a pharmacy etc you could previously only get AZ or now AZ/Moderna

It was the opposite in my town (high deprivation) in Scotland.

No.

Probably not the answer that would have you ribbing your thighs with incandescent glee, though, OP.

I'm happy to admit I'm wrong.

the hospital staff have pfizer, afaik, the rest have az, due to storage

@Cookerhood

The only difference is that the Pfizer vaccines are only going to the GP hubs (or inside hospital, but that is different). This might be true where you are , but not everywhere. Our GP hub hasn't done a single Pfizer (because of storage/batch size). On the other hand the GP hub where I vaccinate does both (but not Moderna because they feel having 3 vaccines on site increases the risk of mix-ups.

Yes not all GP hubs have Pfizer, but what I meant was that in England the mass hubs/pharmacies did not get Pfizer, only GP hubs (and internally at hospitals). Not that all GP hubs got Pfizer. AFAIK in England mass hubs and pharmacies/community hubs did not get Pfizer (only GP hubs and inside hospitals).

correction, the hospital staff Had pfizer, but more recently they too had AZ.

My impression is that Pfizer and Moderna are more widely available in urban mass vaccination centres. I was given Moderna a couple of weeks ago at a big London vaccination hub. My London GP is offering AZ. My cousin (rural South-West England) received AZ at their local vaccination hub (a converted showground). Seems like a logistical issue to me.

No blood clot issue has been reported with pfizer

What percentage of users got a blood clot issue? You’ve made it sound like there’s a 20% death rate!!

@AbsolutelyPatsy

the hospital staff have pfizer, afaik, the rest have az, due to storage

Again, not here. Particularly now the storage for Pfizer is easier. I think people need to understand that it varies from area to area, and also over time.

@SaskiaRembrandt

I live in a very affluent area, I got AZ. My mum also lives in an affluent area, she also got AZ. I had my second dose at a mass vaccination centre, which was offering both AZ and Pfizer, coincidentally, that is located in a less affluent area.

What you get depends on supply and the storage facilities available at the place you get vaccinated.

I agree with PP, this is a very poor attempt to denigrate the AZ vaccine.

Already said, I've had both AZ doses, my nephew was involved in the trial last summer and I was very proud of those who did this.

My husband got AZ and I got Pfizer, both in Anfield in Liverpool which is arguably one of the most deprived areas in the country.

@BigCoat it's probably because that centre has the facilities to store the Pfizer one in the right conditions (not everywhere has)
AZ can be stored and distributed anywhere so is more flexible

DHs hospital only does Pfizer ones and it's in one of the most deprived areas of the country.