Why isn’t Vietnam on the red list?

[IloveSooty424]

Just watching BBC news and they keep going on about Portugal being removed from the green list. Why is everything on this channel about bloody summer holidays abroad?

Why aren’t the BBC and other news outlets reporting what’s happening in Vietnam? Vietnam currently has a hybrid variant, a mutation of the Indian variant, that’s more transmissible than the Indian variant and extremely airborne. This feels like India all over again. We’ll start hearing about it when the first cases arrive here. The government have announced the new red list countries just now, and guess what Vietnam isn’t on it. I’m fuming.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/06/01/vietnams-new-covid-19-hybrid-variant-replicating-quickly/

www.independent.co.uk/news/health/vietnam-variant-covid-uk-india-b1858238.html

Because our Gov never learns and have to be dragged kicking and screaming in to taking any action

Well I read about this on the BBC website days ago, so why didn't you notice it. And the transmission is possibly greater, and it might be more airborne. Well, according to the scientists considering the low number of cases that have been identified.

Not that I would defend the government on any subject under the sun, but, the rest of the information in your post is at best inaccurate.

@Moondust001

Well I read about this on the BBC website days ago, so why didn't you notice it. And the transmission is possibly greater, and it might be more airborne. Well, according to the scientists considering the low number of cases that have been identified.

Not that I would defend the government on any subject under the sun, but, the rest of the information in your post is at best inaccurate.

It wasn’t on the BBC news channel. Didn’t you read my original post? No mention of the website. I

It is MORE transmissible and it IS more airborne. Genetic sequencing has proved this. This is from the Washington Post:

Vietnam’s Health Ministry announced Saturday that it had detected a highly transmissible new variant of the coronavirus that has helped fuel a recent wave of infections in the country.
Genetic sequencing indicated that the new variant was a mix of the coronavirus strains first detected in the United Kingdom and India, said Health Minister Nguyen Thanh Long, according to the VnExpress newspaper.
The minister said the new variant was particularly contagious via air and viral cultures have revealed it replicates extremely quickly.

The full link: www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/05/29/vietnam-hybrid-variant-covid-virus/

I can't be bothered to check... Is it on the green or amber list? The lists aren't exhaustive and we're advised not to assume.

It shows the government’s attitude to Covid. If they don’t give a shit, why should we. I’m done with it and basically doing what I like now. Which so happens to generally be within the current rules but who knows what bull we will be fed next.

I thought they said a few weeks back that regular covid was airborne too?

@dudsville

I can't be bothered to check... Is it on the green or amber list? The lists aren't exhaustive and we're advised not to assume.

It’s on the amber list. If, and it’s a big if, it evades the vaccines people will care. The government’s handling of this has been woeful.

Probably because people haven't booked holidays there en masse so the government can't pull the rug from under them at the last minute. Don't you know how it works yet?

It's like having sanctions and wars with some countries whilst we turn a blind eye to the outrageous atrocities committed by others.

Vietnam doesn't need to be on the red list because they won't let you in anyway
They are not issuing tourist visas and won't be until September or October. So its a moot point whether it's green , red or Amber

@RainbowCrayons

I thought they said a few weeks back that regular covid was airborne too?

It is. But the Vietnam variant is more contagious so spread more quickly through the air.

7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/experts-worried-after-new-vietnamese-virus-strain-found-to-spread-quickly-in-the-air-c-2974299

More quickly spread through the air? This article is comedy gold.

Even if Vietnam has found a serious new variant, I don't see how it could cause the problems the Indian variant is doing here. Vietnamese borders are closed and we don't (I don't think?) have a large number of Vietnamese nationals coming and going from the UK? Or even settled here. I don't know a single person from Vietnam and I live in London. Whereas we have about 1.5 million Indians living in the UK, many of whom still have very strong links with India.

@RainbowCrayons

I thought they said a few weeks back that regular covid was airborne too?

I have always thought it was airborne?

I hope not @blameitonthecaffine. But we need to be proactive rather reactive. We should be closing our border with Vietnam regardless of the situation with their own border. It would show the government has control of the situation which we know has never been the case throughout this entire pandemic.

OliveTree75, more viral particles collect in the throat with this variant and expelled into the air making it more airborne. I don’t know why the above poster thinks that’s ‘comedy gold’ when people are dying from this.

Vietnam isn’t letting anyone into the country anyway so it doesn’t matter what our designation for going there is

Seriously we can’t keep losing our shit every time a new variant appears. It’s ridiculous. There will be god knows how many variants before this pandemic is at an end.

@RedcurrantPuff

Seriously we can’t keep losing our shit every time a new variant appears. It’s ridiculous. There will be god knows how many variants before this pandemic is at an end.

Yes there will. And just because you’ve had enough shouldn’t be a reason to let our guard down.

I’m not sure.

Sri Lanka stopped all incoming for a week now reopened but not for passengers from Vietnam (nor India but actually they have not been allowed in since early May). Yet Vietnam not put on the red list today but Sri Lanka is.

@btwwhichonespink

Probably because people haven't booked holidays there en masse so the government can't pull the rug from under them at the last minute. Don't you know how it works yet?

It's like having sanctions and wars with some countries whilst we turn a blind eye to the outrageous atrocities committed by others.

So many people are flying from/to Sudan as it’s been put in the red list according to your comment. ?

There are very few flights operating to Vietnam at the moment. Plus the quarantine requirements entering there are very strict. Last March everyone had to quarantine in army camps in pretty dire conditions upon entrance. Including my daughters 16 year old school friend returning from school. The Vietnamese have actually done a pretty good job of keeping covid out until very recently. unlike us.

It doesn't need to be.

Vietnam's borders are shut.

The hybrid variant discovered in Vietnam must've come from an essential travel quarantine case.

Since the start in 2020, Vietnam has had a total of around 50 deaths.

With the number of cases in the UK, we are more of a risk to Vietnam than the other way.

We have had largely wide open borders with very little real quarantine.
Around 150,000 deaths.

Vietnam has had very strict border control.
Around 50 deaths

@Tealightsandd

We have had largely wide open borders with very little real quarantine. Around 150,000 deaths.

Vietnam has had very strict border control.
Around 50 deaths

@Tealightsandd I know Vietnam has done extremely well. I wish our government would follow their example regarding borders (not quarantining in army camps though!). The ‘let’s sit back and see what happens’ approach isn’t working.