DS' footy coach is positive. Wwyd?

Workyticket · 2021-05-30T08:03:47+00:00

DS was at football yesterday morning. He was on the bench for the first half and stood nearish to his coach. Outdoors. At tea time his coach Whatsapped to say him, his wife and daughter have tested positive Do we need to do anything with ds as a 'close contact' if a contact was outdoors and at least 1m distance?

PPCD · 30/05/2021 09:05

Your DS needs to self-isolate.

MintMatchmaker · 30/05/2021 09:07

He needs to self isolate.

PotteringAlong · 30/05/2021 09:07

He needs to sell isolate.

JS87 · 30/05/2021 09:07

Why was the coach at football? He can’t have developed symptoms, had a pcr and got the results back between the morning and tea time. Unless it was a lateral flow test but that needs confirming by pcr.

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Workyticket · 30/05/2021 09:08

@JS87

Why was the coach at football? He can’t have developed symptoms, had a pcr and got the results back between the morning and tea time. Unless it was a lateral flow test but that needs confirming by pcr.

No idea. Bit shitty of him 😒

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FAQs · 30/05/2021 09:08

Is he on half term? I’d arrange a test to check.

OrangePowder · 30/05/2021 09:15

The coach reports his positive test and his contacts to contact tracing and they will be in touch if it is deemed DS needs to isolate.

However, assuming this was an offical coaching session, they will have "Covid secure" procedures in place so it's highly unlikely anyone will need to isolate. That's the point. People here will tell you differently and they might be right in terms of absolute risk, but this is how the system works currently.

I am on the committee for a Covid secure sports club. We have had a few cases where members have reported a positive test after a session, but we or other members have never been contacted by contact tracers, it's just assumed they it's all OK because everything is being done in a Covid secure basis. FWIW we've never had a second positive test after a positive person attended a session either.

MintMatchmaker · 30/05/2021 09:15

@FAQs

Is he on half term? I’d arrange a test to check.

But even if he tested negative he’d still have to self isolate.

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Workyticket · 30/05/2021 09:27

@OrangePowder

The coach reports his positive test and his contacts to contact tracing and they will be in touch if it is deemed DS needs to isolate.

However, assuming this was an offical coaching session, they will have "Covid secure" procedures in place so it's highly unlikely anyone will need to isolate. That's the point. People here will tell you differently and they might be right in terms of absolute risk, but this is how the system works currently.

I am on the committee for a Covid secure sports club. We have had a few cases where members have reported a positive test after a session, but we or other members have never been contacted by contact tracers, it's just assumed they it's all OK because everything is being done in a Covid secure basis. FWIW we've never had a second positive test after a positive person attended a session either.

Yes. It's his official football team (under 10s)

Outdoors and distanced so very low risk. DS is on half term, yes.

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OrangePowder · 30/05/2021 09:31

Ok, so you don't need to do anything unless contact tracers contact you.

Similarly, when I developed symptoms the day after a spin class, I reported the positive test and my movements in the days beforehand, but no one in the class was contacted because it was Covid. secure. I know half a dozen of the people who were there (the ones closest to me in the class) quite well and none of them had any subsequent symptoms. These systems do seem to work.

Crockof · 30/05/2021 09:33

But this training session wasn't covid secure because the coach thought the rules didn't apply to him

Muchtoomuchtodo · 30/05/2021 09:35

If he wasn’t socially distanced form the coach then he needs to self isolate.

Sounds like the set up of the club needs a rethink.

WaterBottle123 · 30/05/2021 09:37

Actual
Scientists have stayed transmission almost impossible outdoors. DS isn't a close contact and does not need to isolate.

OrangePowder · 30/05/2021 09:37

@Crockof

But this training session wasn't covid secure because the coach thought the rules didn't apply to him

It doesn't matter. As far as the system is concerned, the session was Covid secure. In the same way that teachers are always 2m from students at school.

Ugzbugz · 30/05/2021 09:41

But the coach isn't positive but yes he shouldn't have been at training.

OrangePowder · 30/05/2021 09:43

In any case, yes Ugzbugz is right. DS hasn't had any contact with the positive people. Coach should have been isolating as part of a positive household but none of his contacts do unless/until he has a positive test.

Crockof · 30/05/2021 09:44

session was Covid secure. In the same way that teachers are always 2m from students at school

I see what you are saying but if after 14 months the coach is incapable of understanding the rules on isolation I'd have little confidence in the security of the rest of the activity.

But OP your son doesn't need to isolate unless contacted by track and trace, which as it was outside is very unlikely.

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Workyticket · 30/05/2021 09:46

@Ugzbugz

But the coach isn't positive but yes he shouldn't have been at training.

The coach is positive

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AlexandraEiffel · 30/05/2021 09:48

The coach could have been on a scheme that tests a random sample, rather than being tested for symptoms. There are tests kits out that for this right now. (And I agree re waiting for test and trace rather than trying to assess it all yourself)

lljkk · 30/05/2021 09:53

"assuming this was an official coaching session, they will have "Covid secure" procedures in place"

^ That. I would treat this as non-contact event.

Imnothereforthedrama · 30/05/2021 09:54

Unless contacted by test & trace you don’t need to isolate.
Was it outside less than 2 metres for more than 15 minutes if not then not classed as a close contact.

Santastealer · 30/05/2021 09:56

The coach more than likely tested positive on lateral flow device as a routine test.

The bashing of people who test positive but have been going about their business is one of the reasons so many people refuse to use lateral flows for regular testing.

I test 3 times weekly on a lateral flow. In-between those tests I am going about my normal business. If I got an asymptomatic positive one day I would absolutely hate for people to think my behaviour was “a bit shitty” in the previous days if I had mixed with them!!

I would say your son doesn’t need to isolate unless contacted by track and trace. Risk is low outdoors and if he stayed 2m away he doesn’t meet NHS criteria.

Htp320 · 30/05/2021 09:57

Outdoors, if he was at school he would not need to isolate as the DfE are telling schools any contact outdoors doesn’t count, even if a child coughed in your face. So I wouldn’t isolate him and would carry on as normal.

RedcurrantPuff · 30/05/2021 10:06

I’d do nothing unless you are instructed to isolate by test and trace or whoever. That’s what triggers the obligation for contacts to isolate.

WrongKindOfFace · 30/05/2021 10:12

@Santastealer

The coach more than likely tested positive on lateral flow device as a routine test.

The bashing of people who test positive but have been going about their business is one of the reasons so many people refuse to use lateral flows for regular testing.

I test 3 times weekly on a lateral flow. In-between those tests I am going about my normal business. If I got an asymptomatic positive one day I would absolutely hate for people to think my behaviour was “a bit shitty” in the previous days if I had mixed with them!!

I would say your son doesn’t need to isolate unless contacted by track and trace. Risk is low outdoors and if he stayed 2m away he doesn’t meet NHS criteria.

I would also assume lateral flow.

It would be interesting to know if there have been any definite cases of transmission outdoors.