When your hairdresser/beauty therapist/osteopath refuses the vaccine ...

[Roasegarden21A]

Firstly, I just want to say I don't believe in pushing people into having vaccines. It has to be a willing choice. I do personally believe in the effectiveness of the vaccination project and I want to be safe and I want my family to be safe. What would you do if a long standing therapist that comes into very close physical contact with you (and many others) is an anti vaxxer? I'm talking about people that are outstanding at their jobs. Would you keep going to see them?

It would not bother me as I would never ask about their vaccine status.

Also, choosing not to have the Covid vaccine does not make someone an anti-vaxxer. Is someone who does not eat chicken, but still eats pork and beef, a vegetarian?

No I would not personally. Why would they tell you, would they not fear losing business?

Nope. Can’t be doing with anti vaxxers.

I’d be questioning their intelligence.

I wouldn’t ask, but if found out I would switch (unless they had a good reason) because it a job like that it is especially irresponsible.

Yes and for many reasons.

1. Contrary to what we’ve been led to believe, not every single human that walks the planet has covid all day every day of the year.
2. If you have the virus enough to cause you to be actually ill then you won’t feel like being at work and will most likely be at home getting better. (I’ve had mild covid and certainly didn’t feel like going out or meeting anyone once the symptoms started).
3. If you are worried about how you will personally respond to catching covid and so you’ve had the vaccine yourself, surely you’re protected and so don’t need to worry about catching it if your ‘outstanding at their job’ person just happens to have covid and not know it yet.
4. At some point people need to accept that sars-cov2 will be here forever and get on with their lives.
5. Most of us are more at risk of a million other potentially life threatening events and don’t let that stop us from living a normal life.
6. If you put yourself in your own shoes 2 years ago, would you have questioned getting a service from someone who is outstanding at their job because they hadn’t had the mmr or tetanus or polio vaccine?
7. It wouldn’t even occur to me to ask the vaccine status of anybody and if they happened to be vocal about it then I would either agree or agree to disagree and then be a grown up about things and not let that sort of irrelevant issue get in the way of my normal life and social interactions.

People NEED to let go of this fear!

If you've had yours it shouldn't matter should it?

I would still see them, yes.

In fact, the lady who has waxed me for years was telling me at length the other week that she won't get the jab.

I have had my first dose and will have my second in July. I assume I will encounter many people who haven't been jabbed. Am fine with that tbh as I have had mine! The only reason to not see them again would be to make some kind of sanctimonious point and flounce off.

She does a fab fanny wax. I'm not going to storm off in a strop!

I cannot even believe you are asking such a question.

If you have had yours what does it matter??

Also how would you know if they have had it or not? It's really none of your business.

Honestly - covid has turned people into a bunch of nutters.

Why would you trust someone who rejects medical science to treat you medically??

The vast majority of "alternative" therapists are nothing more than snake-oil salesmen, looking to capitalise on people's ignorance and desperation for simple fixes. So I suspect a good proportion of them will reject the vaccine as they reject the rest of human scientific knowledge and understanding in favour of easy money.

So the real question is why would you trust your health to a charlatan?

As far as non-medical interactions go, NO to that also, because I'd rather pay my money to someone who had more consideration for the well-being of their customers.

Wouldn’t bother me in the slightest and in fact, I would be quite interested to hear their views on why they are not having it.

I wouldn't give a shit

It wouldn’t bother me, their body, their choice. If I’ve had my vaccine then I’m protected and if they’re good at their job then I’d go to them on that basis not only the vaccination status

How would you possibly know if a therapist, hairdresser or beautician has had the vaccine or not? They are not legally obliged to tell you their medical history and it's just plain rude and entitled to even think of asking.

@strangeshapedpotato

Why would you trust someone who rejects medical science to treat you medically??

The vast majority of "alternative" therapists are nothing more than snake-oil salesmen, looking to capitalise on people's ignorance and desperation for simple fixes. So I suspect a good proportion of them will reject the vaccine as they reject the rest of human scientific knowledge and understanding in favour of easy money.

So the real question is why would you trust your health to a charlatan?

Since when has a hairdresser been someone who treats others medically?

Would you keep going to see them?

yes. Jab decision Would not bother me, would make no difference to my patronage.

I like hear other people's perspectives so would be minded to ask them about their reasons or perspective. After which we could discuss food or weather or something else.

No, I would not. I know it’s not the same thing but I was looking for someone to look after DDog for a week over the summer and thought I’d found a really good lady. I asked what her Covid procedures were and she said she didn’t wear masks, didn’t do social distancing and would not be getting a vaccine. Then I found out she has gone on various anti-lockdown marches and was posting anti-vax stuff on social media. No way would I want to give her my custom and certainly not my dog.

I would continue to visit, regardless of vaccine status. For covid or other diseases.

I don’t ask for people’s vaccine status and it wouldn’t worry me if they weren’t vaccinated, but if they were an antivax conspiracy theorist, I’d use someone else.

Well, being an anti-vaxxer as in actively spreading conspiracy theories or not believing the science is different from just quietly not having the jab, so for me it depends on whether it's the former or not.

Unless they were vocal about it, how would you even know?

If someone was a vocal anti-vaxxer talking about microchips or 5G or "shedding" then I might not want to have anything to do with them tbh, just because I would consider them a bit of an idiot. Obviously if someone couldn't get vaccinated due to an allergy or something, then that's a completely different situation.

Lostinacloud - had to cut and paste your reply because it was so good. I do however think a lot of people who say no are saying no are acting not just from fear but from the concept that they will only associate with or pay people who agree with them exactly on social and political issues. Which is weird to me but many people increasingly take that view.

This is the post I referred to:

Yes and for many reasons.

1. Contrary to what we’ve been led to believe, not every single human that walks the planet has covid all day every day of the year.
2. If you have the virus enough to cause you to be actually ill then you won’t feel like being at work and will most likely be at home getting better. (I’ve had mild covid and certainly didn’t feel like going out or meeting anyone once the symptoms started).
3. If you are worried about how you will personally respond to catching covid and so you’ve had the vaccine yourself, surely you’re protected and so don’t need to worry about catching it if your ‘outstanding at their job’ person just happens to have covid and not know it yet.
4. At some point people need to accept that sars-cov2 will be here forever and get on with their lives.
5. Most of us are more at risk of a million other potentially life threatening events and don’t let that stop us from living a normal life.
6. If you put yourself in your own shoes 2 years ago, would you have questioned getting a service from someone who is outstanding at their job because they hadn’t had the mmr or tetanus or polio vaccine?
7. It wouldn’t even occur to me to ask the vaccine status of anybody and if they happened to be vocal about it then I would either agree or agree to disagree and then be a grown up about things and not let that sort of irrelevant issue get in the way of my normal life and social interactions.

People NEED to let go of this fear

I wouldn’t give money to anyone I know to be anti vax.
I’ve disowned my cousin and his batshit wife over it.

I have no issue with people that cannot have the vaccine or aren’t yet eligible.

No I won’t because I just can’t stand anti vaxxers.

We have requested that the carers are vaccinated (all were so wasn't an issue) but beyond that I wouldn't ask