Is there another lockdown now or not?

[Overthebow]

BBC is showing new guidance for Bolton, Blackburn, Kirklees, Bedford, Burnley, Leicester, Hounslow and North Tyneside.

Is this supposed to be another lockdown? I’m confused.

Oh and by the way, underneath all this “guidance” (in the same pages as the “guidance” everyone else is following) it says.

“ You should follow this guidance on what you can and cannot do. It is underpinned by law. ”

@everythingthelighttouches I remember this too. It was a shambles. People in the surrounding areas had no clue whether the lockdown applied to them. Business didn't know if they should open or close. DH had 30 manners of his team unsure wether to travel to work or not (none can wfh).

Interesting that link states it is applicable in those council areas, not just the specific towns or cities.

Well it’s guidance so not a lockdown but certainly a bit of a worry

@Moondust001

I don't see how it's disgusting, there is clearly a serious systemic issue there that must be down to behaviour of residents.

Yes, of course, just blame the people who live there. It couldn't possibly, despite the conclusions of many significant studies across the world including in the UK, be down to endemic poverty in some areas of the country, which very firmly lies with government policy.

How does poverty stop people from accessing testing and vaccinations that are on their doorstep? Have you seen the stats showing who isn't taking up the vaccine?

[quote freckles20]@BelleBlueBell what a nasty attitude! It's certainly not the fault of every Leicester resident!

There are many many of us in Leicester who have followed both the rules and the guidance. It's unhelpful to be blamed by people like you, who we are trying to protect by following the rules but who don't seem to recognise how hard things have been, or what it is like to be blamed.

No real effort has been made to understand what is happening, or help us. We are people just like you- children, old people, vulnerable people. [/quote]
Clearly you didn't read what I said, where did I even imply that it was all the residents but it would be foolish and dangerous to ignore the reasons (whatever they are) that one city has suffered much worse then all the others for well over a year.

@Moondust001 - behaviour isn't a negative or blame word it has no element of judgement. Behaviour could well be down to poverty and if that's the case solutions can be investigated

Getting all defensive isn't going to help reduce cases

@freckles20

I live in Leicester and I had absolutely no idea about this until I heard it on this morning's national news. Apparently it came into force on Friday. It was not advertised or mentioned anywhere at all that I'm aware of.

Since Friday we have been shopping, eaten indoors in a party of 6, DH has been to watch Leicester City play in the stadium surrounded by lots of people and travelled to London on the train twice.

Many many people have been enjoying lockdown realises- not least because we have been effectively locked down without any relief since all this began.

People were and are on their knees. Leicester has had such a hard time and it feels like the decision makers just cast us off like lepers. Why on earth hasn't this been publicised and managed? It's hardly the way to get people to comply, and before we know it the variant will have moved from these hot spots to the rest of the country.

Another Leicester poster here and I wholeheartedly agree with this.

Half term is fucked. Again.

I'm so fed up

Ffs there’s a lot of ignorance on this thread. Does no-one watch or read the news anymore?

I will probably be flamed for this, but people have obviously travelled back from India, untested, not isolating, and then passed on the virus into multi-generational households, who have taken it into schools, shops, passed it onto teachers, shop workers, who have taken it home etc etc.
Why have unvaccinated people been allowed to travel around, completely untested, in the first place? How many more people are allowed to decide that ‘the rules don’t apply to them’?

If the hospital admission rates haven’t increased dramatically, and the death rate remains low, then it should just be regarded in the same way as seasonal ‘flu, and we take as many precautions as we can, and get on with life.

All the pussy footing around = not blaming cultural issues etc., is infuriating. If some people don’t want to have the vaccine, then they must accept the consequences of their actions.

@IHeartKingThistle

Oh God. My parents have just moved to a village outside Leicester and are desperate for the DC to go and stay at half term. Do we not go???

I do worry that people have lost the plot. Look at your situation rationally, your parents live outside of Leicester, so unless they travel into the city regularly to partake in a high risk activity such as working in a school, hospital or overcrowded shop/factory etc why on earth would you be panicking?

DumplingsAndStew

“I'm not sure why it's come as such a surprise. Other UK nations are back to a 'tier' system, so it shouldn't be shocking that England are going to do the same.”

“It sucks, yes, but its for a reason, no matter how much someone stomps their feet and says it isn't fair.”

I agree it is needed. It isn’t a shock to me at all. I have been following the exponential growth of the so-called Indian variant very closely. This isn’t over by a long shot and I think we haven’t seen the end to restrictions either.

What people are “stomping” their feet about is that it hasn’t been communicated !!!!!

Important, specific guidance was dropped into a government webpage and noone, not the local public health authorities or the local government knew.

I have to go to Bolton tomorrow but it's a dentist appointment (I don't live in Bolton) so I guess that's pretty essential

I'm also a Leicester City Centre resident, have only heard about this morning!
Can anyone share a reliable list of the latest restrictions or guidance?

@ZoBo123

Surprise surprise lockdown by the back door. Enjoy your freedom while you can. I give it 3 weeks until further restrictions come back and 21st June easing doesn't happen. Look at the reaction in this thread "why was this not published...have we learnt nothing...etc" they are winding the public up to demand something is done

I’m not saying “why wasn’t this published” because I’m demanding something is done. I’m saying it because if the government felt it was necessary, they should have no problem making it public. Doing it this way smacks of not wanting the headlines, but if it all goes tits up, wanting to be able to blame people and say “well we did warn you not to mix!!!”

@IHeartKingThistle

Oh God. My parents have just moved to a village outside Leicester and are desperate for the DC to go and stay at half term. Do we not go???

I live in a village outside Leicestershire. 12 cases per 100,000 people. You are aware that villages and cities are not one and the same, aren’t you?

@Lissy23

I’m gutted about this. I’m not in those areas specifically, but I’m very close...I’m in Calderdale. We had additional restrictions last time. I’ll be so gutted if we’re back in that situation again. I’ve got lots of trips booked and seeing my family/friends who I haven’t seen in over a year. We’ve not been included yet, but I feel it’s just a matter of time 🙁

Yes, that's it, make it about you, rather than those of us who actually are caught up in it again.

According to GMB everyone in these areas are fully aware and reacting well!

What an absolute shambles, she won't answer about half term either.

Yes the point is no one knew about it. If we need to reimpose restrictions then fine, communicate it properly, back it up with data and give a clear exit plan. But this has been sneaked in with none of that, alongside news articles the same weekend stating we are still on track to unlock on 21st June.

@Littlefluffyclouds13

I'm also a Leicester City Centre resident, have only heard about this morning! Can anyone share a reliable list of the latest restrictions or guidance?

Lighthearted alert for sensitive Leicester dwellers

Maybe the inability to Google is part of the problem

@Lissy23 try living where I do!! Honestly some folk.....

@BelleBlueBell just very time poor and asking for help. Thanks though

@Lalliella

Ffs there’s a lot of ignorance on this thread. Does no-one watch or read the news anymore?

How exactly it this helpful? please share your insights instead of just dismissing people with distain.

We are due to visit some elderly relatives in and near Bolton in a few weeks time. We haven't seen them all year and usually see them three r four times a year. I really hope they get the outbreak under control by then.These are DC's closest relatives and they can't wait to see them.

@BelleBlueBell I'm defensive because there are a lot of people within Leicester whose behaviour is not as described but are nevertheless subject to ongoing restrictions without any recognition that we need help.

No credible effort whatsoever has been made to help or understand the issues the city faces. Lots of theories are thrown about- but no proper research has been done and no proper help has been received.

When Leicester locked down and everywhere else reopened we did not receive the grants and additional help offered months later due to lobbying in Manchester and Liverpool. We did not receive the initial surge testing service, apparently this was because cities needed to 'bid' for this and our bid wasn't robust enough. Things like this show us no one is really looking out for us. When you're not all in it together it makes people less inclined to cripple their own lives and work to benefit others and reduce the spread.

Maybe the actions of a minority have caused this. But the knock on effect is that people who have done nothing wrong are also affected, and form part of the higher infection rate.

[quote Littlefluffyclouds13]@BelleBlueBell just very time poor and asking for help. Thanks though [/quote]
Come off it, it would have been quicker to Google, you're proving my point