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Unvaccinated person living with vaccinated person- weird symptoms? **Title edited by MNHQ**

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Berline · 17/05/2021 08:00

Hi all,
This is entirely anecdotal but my dh is vaccinated and as yet I am not. He's older by about ten years.
I've noticed I'm getting headaches and feeling a bit run down since he's been jabbed.
I work from home, only tend to see one other close friend-also older and been jabbed- who I spend a lot of time with indoors. They are single so this has been allowed for ages.
Go out to supermarket and outside pub with others but that's it. No dc's.
What I'm getting at here is could my symptoms be related to dh and friend having jab? They're the only ones I dont distance with.
I'm not worried but curious.

OP posts:
backinthebox · 17/05/2021 12:06

Every time someone comes up with an inane question regarding vaccines here, one of those ‘its probably just a coincidence but I’ve heard about this weird thing the vaccine might do, has anyone else heard this too?’ type questions, you can guarantee they have already laid out their position on vaccination in an earlier thread. And the OP here is no exception.

Here’s what the OP has to say elsewhere:
“There 's no way I 'm having a vaccine against anything that'll probably make me only mildly ill.

It's not Ebola or Rubella! Both of which ARE very much vaccinating against.

I bet there WILL be more problems with this vaccine and the bullish bullying types saying to just have it will look silly.

I won't be bullied by not being able to go to the footie, either. The govt. can f* off with their coercive control”

I think it’s safe to say that they are actively looking for a problem where none exists. Threads like this are amusing, but the fact is that there are plenty of people out there coming up with nonsense like this in order to try and derail vaccination programmes for who knows what reason. It’s antisocial behaviour, and this thread exposes a particularly unsavoury side to the anti-vaxxers’ methodology - the refusal to ‘risk’ themselves whilst at the same time hoping that those around them will bear the risk and by doing so offer protection to the unvaccinated. IMO the unvaccinated that society is protecting should really only include those who cannot have a vaccine for medical reasons, not those who choose not to have it because they don’t want it. Each person who falls into this category is effectively stating that they are not willing to be part of the society they live in, and spreading gossip like this can only be described as either ignorant or malicious.

Ostara212 · 17/05/2021 12:09

@HopeYourHighHorseBucks

Yes it could be.

I took my dog to be wormed the other week and I cant stop dragging my arse along the carpet.

This made me lol so hard, thanks, I needed that.
Terracotta9 · 17/05/2021 12:20

@ZydecoLaydee The sections you refer to relate to an accidental needle stick or somehow the administrator inhaling the vaccine.

No. This is incorrect.

Read the example cases for environmental exposure.

WaterBottle123 · 17/05/2021 12:34

It's absolutely possible, stop being so mean anyone.

I mean, I assume your DH is breastfeeding you OP?

citycitycity · 17/05/2021 12:35

@HopeYourHighHorseBucks

Yes it could be.

I took my dog to be wormed the other week and I cant stop dragging my arse along the carpet.

I expect to see this on a ‘best response on a thread’ thread in the future 😂
citycitycity · 17/05/2021 12:40

To be fair, my husband tried to convince me that his vaccine could also protect me via special bodily fluids…

Creamteasandsunshine · 17/05/2021 12:47

I blame the weather!

chesirecat99 · 17/05/2021 12:49

No, your symptoms can't be related for the reasons PP's have posted.

It wasn't an entirely stupid question though until you suggested that your DH might be conferring some immunity on you. Shedding can occur after vaccination with live attenuated virus but none of the COVID vaccines are made that way.

ZydecoLaydee · 17/05/2021 12:51

[quote Terracotta9]**@ZydecoLaydee* The sections you refer to relate to an accidental needle stick or somehow the administrator inhaling the vaccine.*

No. This is incorrect.

Read the example cases for environmental exposure.[/quote]
They relate to exposure to the intervention i.e. the vaccine, not to someone who hangs around with a vaccinated person... I was trying to give examples. The unborn baby is an extra precaution required by regulators standard to all clinical trials.

Terracotta9 · 17/05/2021 12:57

@ZydecoLaydee

You’re not reading the examples.

“A male who has received the intervention then exposes his female partner”

Terracotta9 · 17/05/2021 12:57

Here.

Unvaccinated person living with vaccinated person- weird symptoms? **Title edited by MNHQ**
Workinghardeveryday · 17/05/2021 13:03

Why do some people have to be so mean.
Like op said we are not scientists are we.
Because of my meds I can’t be around someone who has had certain live vaccinations or have them. Yes the Covid vaccine isn’t live but it is so knew.
For all those with their negative comments actually making fun of op for asking a question, just think back, it wasn’t that long ago pregnant mums were given Thalidomide and looked what happened there. They thought they were totally sure it was fine etc.
@Berline I think it’s a good question and one none of us know the answer to not really, only hazard a guess for now.
My dp has chronic neck and back pain, never had it before and been suffering since I had my vaccine, that’s why I opened this thread.

Wilkolampshade · 17/05/2021 13:11

Oh my goodness @backinthebox I couldn't agree more or put it any better. It's wide-eyed disingenuous ignorance of the most worrying kind. A wilful refusal to read around the subject, which as other posters have shown, is information widely available.

ZydecoLaydee · 17/05/2021 13:12

@Terracotta9

Here.
That is about exposure during pregnancy, it’s at the top of the section. It’s concern about the fetus not the mother.
Terracotta9 · 17/05/2021 13:13

An exposure to the foetus is an exposure to the mother.

ZydecoLaydee · 17/05/2021 13:22

@Terracotta9

An exposure to the foetus is an exposure to the mother.
Last try... exposure during pregnancy reporting is a requirement for all clinical trials, that same wording is used in all Pfizer clinical trial protocols. There is no evidence of the vaccine or the spike protein in sperm. There is no way that the mRNA or the spike protein produced in the muscle cells of a vaccine recipient can pass to someone they live with.
Confuzzlediddled · 17/05/2021 14:26

@ZydecoLaydee stop it now, all your facts and common sense and stuff, you're being far too obstructive to the storyline Wink

Cookerhood · 17/05/2021 15:02

I just thought maybe he was conferring some protection to me
There is no mechansim by which this could happen, sorry,

Terracotta9 · 17/05/2021 15:21

@ZydecoLaydee

They’re not just collecting this data in the trial for fun.

Can you point me to a peer reviewed study that definitively shows that it’s impossible for the spike protein to be transmitted between vaccinated and unvaccinated people? And not just editorialising on a “fact checking” site, but an actual study.

Even if it’s rare, or unlikely, we still cannot state that it’s impossible. No credible scientist would make such a claim while our observational data on these new vaccines doesn’t even span a whole year yet

MistressoftheDarkSide · 17/05/2021 15:23

@Terracotta9

Well said.

Things can be highly unlikely but possible. The data is not yet in.

tenlittlecygnets · 17/05/2021 16:30

Oh, OP. If only there was a giant source of all information that we cold just type a question in and get an answer - oh wait. There is!

Have a look at www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/how-they-work.html

A vaccine only works on the person it has been injected into. End of.

If it did somehow have the ability to confer protection on unvaccinated people, don't you think you'd have heard about this on the news?

tenlittlecygnets · 17/05/2021 16:32

My dp has chronic neck and back pain, never had it before and been suffering since I had my vaccine, that’s why I opened this thread.

Chronic, @Workinghardeveryday? That suggests it' a long-term problem, not one receently caused?

Your dp's neck pain is a coincidence. No more.

bookworm1632 · 17/05/2021 16:37

@backinthebox

threads like this are amusing

Not really - they're a carefully constructed effort by an ignorant and deranged fringe group to spread as much misinformation/confusion/concern/fear regarding vaccines as possible.

MrsMackesy · 17/05/2021 18:36

he was conferring some protection to me
transference of immunity

Did your DH suggest this to you, OP? Did he say it would only happen via you having sex with him three times a week for the remainder of the pandemic? If so, I think you've been had.

knittingaddict · 17/05/2021 19:37

@tenlittlecygnets

My dp has chronic neck and back pain, never had it before and been suffering since I had my vaccine, that’s why I opened this thread.

Chronic, @Workinghardeveryday? That suggests it' a long-term problem, not one receently caused?

Your dp's neck pain is a coincidence. No more.

I was in the hospital waiting room and another patient insisted in telling me all about her terrible symptoms following her vaccine jab, including minute detail of her bowel movements, sickness and general unwellness. She said that she had been perfectly healthy before that. Less than a minute later she was telling me about the weeks she spent in hospital last year.

Also told me about the legs she broke at school and how she only noticed years later that one leg was 1 1/2 inches shorter than the other.

Generally she looked very unhealthy.

Like hell did the vaccine cause her illness.