Unvaccinated person living with vaccinated person- weird symptoms? **Title edited by MNHQ**

[Berline]

Hi all,
This is entirely anecdotal but my dh is vaccinated and as yet I am not. He's older by about ten years.
I've noticed I'm getting headaches and feeling a bit run down since he's been jabbed.
I work from home, only tend to see one other close friend-also older and been jabbed- who I spend a lot of time with indoors. They are single so this has been allowed for ages.
Go out to supermarket and outside pub with others but that's it. No dc's.
What I'm getting at here is could my symptoms be related to dh and friend having jab? They're the only ones I dont distance with.
I'm not worried but curious.

"just thought maybe he was conferring some protection to me."

How?

Ive been vaccinated, my 21 and 24 yr old have not been vaccinated. Neither of them have been affected by me having the vaccine, so yes it seems a bit of a daft question.

Get tested if you are worried.

😂

@Berline

I don't think I've caught covid. I just thought maybe he was conferring some protection to me. That's all. If it's just a coincidence, then I'm disappointed if anything.

How could anyone think that this might actually be a possibility 🤔😳😅

Every common sense part of me tells me no. Psychosomatic.

I have heard a few people say this. I guess it’s not inconceivable that the spike protein itself could shed in snot?! I have no idea.

Have any studies actually looked at this?

Presumably there would be no longer term issues and it would be short lived.

You can't get immunity by breathing near someone, that's how you catch a respiratory virus due to the infection bring in the respiratory system. Vaccine immunity is created by inactive parts of the covid-19 virus (AZ) or a blueprint of how to create the covid-19 virus (Pfizer and Moderna). This is injected into the arm muscle. The body identifies it and creates antibodies, T-cells and B-cells to destroy the virus. These remain in the body ready to destroy the real virus if it comes into the body. There is no involvement from the respiratory system that would mean the virus gets out, the only mechanisms to share antibodies are breastfeeding infants or medical procedures using extracted blood.

No not worried about catching covid from a vaccinated person HOPING that my immune system had been activated by living with a vaccinated person giving me some immunity.
If not then I'm disappointed.
I'm not a scientist.
I don't know how these things work.

Thanks Mrex.

I'm not a scientist.
Yes, we got that.

I've heard wearing tin foil hat can help

You're welcome.

I don’t think anyone is saying you can get covid from a vaccinated person.

Interestingly, one of those “Forbes” articles states that the spike protein “isn’t thought to shed in great quantities”. Presumably it can shed a little bit then. It’s not inconceivable that could slightly react with someone else’s immune system surely?

@Berline

Quite a negative reaction for a genuine question. As I said, I'm not worried. Perhaps I should have said that if so it's a GOOD thing. I was hoping for 'yes there's a connection, this is some kind of transference of immunity'.

Quite a negative reaction

Actually I think the responders have been kind to you after you asked probably the most stupid, question I've read in months!

OP, either you are following the wrong FB groups, or you have idiot friends. At the extreme end of the anti-vax world, you have people who believe in this idea of "vaccine shedding". It equates fairly well with the 5g conspiracy, or the "dog/worm anecdote" in terms of them all being totally and utterly ridiculous.

If I were you, whatever gave you this idea, you should excise from your life. Whatever/whomever it is, one day, believing in garbage like this will cause you severe problems - e.g. perhaps delaying life-saving chemo because you've read that burying a potato in your garden works better...

Why bookworm?

Why can’t we have a discussion? It’s an interesting one and worthy of review. Why couldn’t the spike protein shed in tiny amounts in mucus or similar?

This doesn’t make someone anti vaccine

@MRex

You can't get immunity by breathing near someone, that's how you catch a respiratory virus due to the infection bring in the respiratory system. Vaccine immunity is created by inactive parts of the covid-19 virus (AZ) or a blueprint of how to create the covid-19 virus (Pfizer and Moderna). This is injected into the arm muscle. The body identifies it and creates antibodies, T-cells and B-cells to destroy the virus. These remain in the body ready to destroy the real virus if it comes into the body. There is no involvement from the respiratory system that would mean the virus gets out, the only mechanisms to share antibodies are breastfeeding infants or medical procedures using extracted blood.

I really don't know where the impression that AZ is a standard type of vaccine. It works in the same way as the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines except the "blueprint" is DNA rather than mRNA and an adenovirus vector is used to gain entry to the cell while the mRNa vaccines use lipid nanoparticles which are takes into the cell via endocytosis.

This is hilarious, really brightened up a dreary Monday

@Berline

Quite a negative reaction for a genuine question. As I said, I'm not worried. Perhaps I should have said that if so it's a GOOD thing. I was hoping for 'yes there's a connection, this is some kind of transference of immunity'.

Out of interest, how would you suggest immunity could possibly be transferred?

@Berline

I don't think I've caught covid. I just thought maybe he was conferring some protection to me. That's all. If it's just a coincidence, then I'm disappointed if anything.

If this worked we would only have to vaccinate half the population

😂😂😂😂😂😂

Op are you serious?

Pfizer’s own trial protocol mentions possible environmental exposure of the intervention via “skin contact or inhalation”

At the very least, this is an acknowledgement of it being possible.

trial protocol
Sections 8.3.5.1 to 8.3.5.3

I'm not asking for kindness. I don't even care about being called daft by people who, in all probability, know as much as I do about the subject. That is, eff all.
Just hoping a person would take the question at face value and explain yay/nay to me in layman's terms.
That's it, really. No agenda.

@Terracotta9

Pfizer’s own trial protocol mentions possible environmental exposure of the intervention via “skin contact or inhalation”

At the very least, this is an acknowledgement of it being possible.

trial protocol
Sections 8.3.5.1 to 8.3.5.3

Of the actual vaccine before or during administration, not through ‘shedding’. The sections you refer to relate to an accidental needle stick or somehow the administrator inhaling the vaccine.

@Berline

I don't think I've caught covid. I just thought maybe he was conferring some protection to me. That's all. If it's just a coincidence, then I'm disappointed if anything.

That’s even more bonkers than thinking you’d caught COVID from his vaccine!