The vulnerable are all vaccinated?

[Slothsloths]

I keep reading here that the vulnerable are vaccinated. Are people referring to groups 1-4, and has everyone in these groups had both their jabs?

I am CV and have not had both jabs and wondered if this is very unusual.

There must also be a smaller number of people who are vulnerable but cannot be vaccinated due to age or other conditions.

OP - The easiest way to get your head around this nonsense is this:
We have moved from a scenario last year of "protect pressure on the NHS." To...let's try reach Zero Covid.
Hence why the government and its advisors are sat laughing while large swathes of the public shit themselves over an Indian variant even though the elderly and vulnerable are now vaccinated.
Nobody in this country would have listened to this nonsense at this time last year but ... that's nudge theory for you.
The reason for all of this is fairly simple.
Soon, there will be a public enquiry and the various ministers and public officials involved in Covid crisis planning know they will have to sit before a steering committee. They want to cover their backs 100 per cent (as is the way in government circles/the public sector); ask anybody who works in the NHS.
There is large support for this stance on MN simply because many people here are middle class, have cushy WFH jobs, are public sector etc. So they have no skin in the game where further restrictions are concerned - they won't lose their jobs, houses or whatever else.
What we are seeing now is about back covering, nothing else...

Just booked 2nd jab for Sunday and DH for Monday

It wasn't available at 7pm but the dates ahem moved forward now

@lostlife good news! Did you get a text to do it?

[quote Dementedswan]@lostlife good news! Did you get a text to do it?[/quote]
No

As my 1st was at the GP they only booked one and I was waiting for a text for the second.

I went onto the national site and it said that I could book my second and so I am going to the next small town on Sunday and my DH is going to a bigger regional centre on Monday (he is busy on Sunday and I am away on Monday)

I just went on the NHS booking site and cancelled my second vaccine in June and it let me rebook for Monday morning.
So if you've booked through the nhs site I'd suggest re booking for second vaccines.
It worked for me thankfully.

I only just had my 1st and dh still not had his first yet (late 40;s)

Not all the vulnerable can be vaccinated
Not all the vulnerable are over 16
Some of the vulnerable who have been vaccinated are on medication that means the vaccine might not work very well.

@Coldwine75 then count yourself lucky you are not classed as extremely vulnerable.

sorry I dont know what you mean by that comment?

I'm CV and have been offered the vaccine but I haven't taken it as I have low platelets and the vaccine could potentially cause serious side effects so I am waiting for more data before I consider the vaccine. i think that people are confused with the government saying that the vulnerable has been vaccinated with the vulnerable has been offered the vaccine.

It's a thread asking if vulnerable people have been vaccinated. You posted that you just had your first. If you were vulnerable then you would have had your first feb/March.

I have friends who arent vulnerable and younger than 40 had their first in March and earlier ?

@Coldwine75 via their jobs? The system isn't perfect but we can't deny everyone involved has done a great job.

Nope nothing to do with jobs, just errors in the system maybe

Some have become vulnerable recently, like a colleague of mine who was in a terrible accident in March & only recently discharged from hospital. They need to be physically a bit stronger before the jab as they are recovering from a number of surgeries.

@Dementedswan

It's a thread asking if vulnerable people have been vaccinated. You posted that you just had your first. If you were vulnerable then you would have had your first feb/March.

My DH was CEV and his 1st was 18th March. That was the 1st date offered.

@Dementedswan

It's a thread asking if vulnerable people have been vaccinated. You posted that you just had your first. If you were vulnerable then you would have had your first feb/March.

This isn’t true for everyone though as I’m CV but was not offered my first jab until after March.

My dh is vulnerable but we are still waiting for 1st jab!

Her husband is late 40s. The UK government might have set the age cut off as 50 but global data shows 45+ as the age when vulnerability increases. Hence why some other countries did their initial vaccination phase from 40 or 45.

It's also common to start developing underlying conditions in 40s. Lots of 40 somethings are potentially undiagnosed CV.

Until the pandemic, the NHS acknowledged this and there was a national scheme to offer health checks from 40. I've just read that the government might be raising the age of these health checks to 50. Presumably to cover for excluding the 40s from planned booster vaccines.

Also, 40s are vulnerable...to Long Covid. It seems particularly an issue for 40+ women.

I must have been lucky then, apologies if I offended anyone. My dh was one of the first in group 6 mid Feb, I was one of the last mid march. We have both been double jabbed. Dh 11 weeks after and me 9 weeks gap.

It varies a lot around the country. I'm group 6 and have had both jabs. DH is group 9 and has also had both jabs. We only had 5 weeks between first and second jabs because they were getting through the first jabs so quickly they ran out of people eligible for first jabs. So they started inviting people for their second jabs earlier.

My parents are older, 70+, I think they were group 5? They both got their first jabs a few weeks before I got mine, but their second jabs were a couple of weeks after my second. Just different places, different surgeries, different demographics (a lot more older people where my parents live than where I live).

I know a few vulnerable children though, who won't be vaccinated for a while yet. None of the vaccines are recommended for under 16s yet I think, they're still conducting trials. Then there are people with medical conditions that make the vaccines more risky. My sister has allergies that make a lot of vaccines inappropriate. She could have Pfizer but not AZ because of her allergies (I'm not quite sure what ingredient or even which allergy it would have triggered, she has so many!)

There's a difference between the UK government list of vulnerable, and the actual clinical reality.

I'm group 6 & only was offered it in April (in my 30s), not had 2nd yet.

@wotchhha

Some have become vulnerable recently, like a colleague of mine who was in a terrible accident in March & only recently discharged from hospital. They need to be physically a bit stronger before the jab as they are recovering from a number of surgeries.

Yes this.

Lots of undiagnosed vulnerable too. Particularly from 40+.

I know several in group 6 who only had their first jab at the end of March. There was no availability before then.

Also there's probably quite a few CEV or CV amongst the vaccine hesitant groups. If enough of them need hospitalisation, hospitals are going to fill up.