Breaking News Boris press conference tonight 14/05/21

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So, is Monday under threat? Change to school masks or hugs?

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I mean going forward longer term tbh.
Living alongside covid whilst living normal lives, with normal social interactions, travel, schooling (including higher Ed), work places open, mass gatherings taking place, etc.

We can't keep locking down.
Our economy can't deal with that.
Most people can't live with restrictions longer term. It's already been 14 months or more.

So long as the vaccines keep reducing the likelihood of transmission and severity of illness we have to just keep going.

Covid will never be eradicated in all likelihood.

Bolton currently has 18 people with covid in hospital. 3 of those on a ventilator

Admissions with covid were 3 people yesterday

Bookworm p even that wouldn't eradicate Covid.
There are very very few diseases we have ever eradicated from the world. This is a pandemic. Unless we lock ourselves down forever we will always have some form of covid. Otherwise all closing borders does it hold it off for a while. As soon as you reopen then chances are cases from elsewhere will return.

I doubt there are many people around who really want to be an isolated island locked off from the world long term.

"Living with Covid" really means accepting a certain level of illness and death, let's not sugar coat it.

Having the vaccine doesn’t stop you from catching or spreading COVID-19

It's fairly well documented now that the consensus is that the vaccine reduces both transmission and symptomatic infection.

@TruelyWonder

Bolton currently has 18 people with covid in hospital. 3 of those on a ventilator

Admissions with covid were 3 people yesterday

It looks like the 3 on a ventilator has been the same number since 1st May

Previous the number in hospital was between 13 to 15

@GlutenFreeGingerCake

"Living with Covid" really means accepting a certain level of illness and death, let's not sugar coat it.

Who is sugar coating it? That's exactly what it means.

@CornishGem1975

We don't even know what he is going to say yet and yet people are assuming is is a done deal for a lock down or catastrophe. I wish people would chill a bit and step back and look at the low rate of death from covid and look at the high rate of vaccinations and look at the low rate of hospital cases.

@NoMLMbots I think the majority of us do and that's why we're so frustrated that there have been hints of further restrictions. WE can see that for ourselves, we know the vaccination rollout has been a success, we know hospitalisations and deaths are low, we know the majority of people get no or mild symptoms and the survival rate is high. We know all of this. It's the frustration and being held captive by the government who keep wanting to petrify the general public.

Indeed it is very annoying and totally unnecessary.

The next few weeks are going to get interesting on here once the reality sets in that our new wave has started 😑

@Thewiseoneincognito

The next few weeks are going to get interesting on here once the reality sets in that our new wave has started 😑

Ah you’ll love it as per.

You’re already thinking about how it will happen.

You don’t know if hospitalisation will increase though do you?

@Thewiseoneincognito

The next few weeks are going to get interesting on here once the reality sets in that our new wave has started 😑

I can hear the hands rubbing against the thighs right now!

@Abraxan

Bookworm p even that wouldn't eradicate Covid. There are very very few diseases we have ever eradicated from the world. This is a pandemic. Unless we lock ourselves down forever we will always have some form of covid. Otherwise all closing borders does it hold it off for a while. As soon as you reopen then chances are cases from elsewhere will return.

I doubt there are many people around who really want to be an isolated island locked off from the world long term.

We can stop international travel in the short term though until a higher proportion of the world's population is vaccinated. Some countries have managed it and they have been able to carry on as normal apart from that.

Enough with this “only a few more months, why spoil it now” bollocks. Every time we’ve been in lockdown it’s been “just a few weeks”, “just a bit longer”, “only a month more”. Fuck. That. The most vulnerable are vaccinated, what more do you want? The country is on its knees fgs!!! Why on earth is everyones lives being put on hold for an illness that for the majority doesnt lead tp hospitalisation?! It is fucking madness. Doris whos 80, well if she dies it is a terrible and sad and awful thing and ideally we wouldn’t have had any covid deaths - but nigh on over a years lockdown to support the Doris's in living until theyre 90 (well above the national average btw)? Madness

Belladonna what’s your solution to road freight

Nugget yep bugger just a few more weeks

It’s been over a year of this and same posters saying it

@GlutenFreeGingerCake

"Living with Covid" really means accepting a certain level of illness and death, let's not sugar coat it.

Well yes of course. Like we do with the flu, strains of which are the mutated version of the Spanish flu.

Do the gov think that one dose of vaccine is unlikely to bat off the Indian variant for the over 50's? Is that why they are bringing the 12 week second dose forward to 8 weeks? Doesn't this mean that some younger completely unvaccinated people will end up waiting longer for their first dose? These younger people who circulate a lot more socially will be catching and transmitting the Indian variant, until they get a first vaccine. Am I missing something here?

It's OK saying vaccines reduce transmission but why are the government so cagey about it. Whitty today was being very careful with his words when talking about vaccines and transmission.

@Thewiseoneincognito

The next few weeks are going to get interesting on here once the reality sets in that our new wave has started 😑

You sound almost gleeful at the prospect....

@MarshaBradyo

Belladonna what’s your solution to road freight

Obviously that will need to continue but I don't think it's as big a risk if drivers are tested.

I suppose the problem is that the things that would work to stop these spikes spreading further would not be looked on favourably by the population and there would be cries of 'police state'.

Bella You won’t stop it coming in then. Which means you can’t carry on as normal

@Thewiseoneincognito

The next few weeks are going to get interesting on here once the reality sets in that our new wave has started 😑

It'll be fine. It'll just be a case of not blaming Boris because he didn't have the benefit of hindsight and nobody knew what was going to happen.

Possibly with some very last minute changes because it's a fast moving situation which nobody could have foreseen. And if the NHS wasn't such an enormous waste of money we could just let it run through the population with absolutely no issues. So we should probably get rid of it/fire all the non-frontline staff/find an army of volunteers/force NHS staff to move to areas of the country where they are needed more and fire them if they don't. (delete as applicable).

@penni00

Do the gov think that one dose of vaccine is unlikely to bat off the Indian variant for the over 50's? Is that why they are bringing the 12 week second dose forward to 8 weeks? Doesn't this mean that some younger completely unvaccinated people will end up waiting longer for their first dose? These younger people who circulate a lot more socially will be catching and transmitting the Indian variant, until they get a first vaccine. Am I missing something here?

That the younger people will be getting Pfizer/Moderna, and the bulk of the second doses will be AZ, so bringing forward the second doses isn't likely to have a big impact on first doses, as long as the vaccination sites and vaccinators are available.

And that the younger people who are catching it are less likely to be seriously ill and bring hospital numbers up, which is the big worry about the over 50s catching it.

It is still a worry if too many younger people get it, yes. But it has to be a compromise somehow, about what to do for the best and how to prioritise resources.

@GlutenFreeGingerCake

"Living with Covid" really means accepting a certain level of illness and death, let's not sugar coat it.

Of course it means this. Just like we live with flu, heart disease, cancer, RTAs and the numerous other causes of death.