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Breaking News Boris press conference tonight 14/05/21

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Whichjab · 14/05/2021 12:54

So, is Monday under threat? Change to school masks or hugs?

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bethmc93 · 14/05/2021 15:40

I am so fed up of this, my mental health is in the toilet. I miss my family and friends.

GingerAndTheBiscuits · 14/05/2021 15:40

Plus, Eid was yesterday so not sure how anyone can attribute a surge in cases to that.

MercyBooth · 14/05/2021 15:42

So on this thread we have.
a. its the fault of those who wont get vaccinated
b. its the fault of those who have been vaccinated for not being careful enough.
NO MATTER WHAT WE DO IT WILL NEVER BE ENOUGH AND IT WILL ALWAYS BE OUR FAULT. Gay people got blamed and scapegoated for the HIV epidemic. Now the whole of the public get blamed for the spread of Covid. Im sick of paying the price for this Governments mistakes and then being told i havent sacrificed enough and being blamed.

THIS is on them.

MercyBooth · 14/05/2021 15:43

@GingerAndTheBiscuits Ive noted that the incubation period for Covid gets changed a lot to suit the agenda at the time.

IrmaFayLear · 14/05/2021 15:43

@MercyBooth - I quite agree with that. Vaccine take-up must be encouraged and shown to be worth it.

Also agree that we cannot lockdown forever for the sake of those who refuse the vaccine. Actually I don’t know how you deal with this problem, as they will be spreading the virus or its mutations and don’t seem to give a f*.

a8mint · 14/05/2021 15:44

It will be just Disney Dad Boris announcing the easings which were hitherto provisional

User135644 · 14/05/2021 15:44

It's not looking good. This whole Indian variant seems to have floored everything, but Boris won't want to deliver bad news. It'll be worse for hospitality though if he opens up and then locks down again.

RockingMyFiftiesNot · 14/05/2021 15:44

I wonder whether they will continue lockdown in Bolton? And if they do; will they extend that to the whole of Greater Manchester?

Belladonna12 · 14/05/2021 15:49

@RockingMyFiftiesNot

I wonder whether they will continue lockdown in Bolton? And if they do; will they extend that to the whole of Greater Manchester?
Local lockdown seems very pointless. People just socialise in the nearest place that is not in lockdown.
BountyIsUnderrated · 14/05/2021 15:52

@cookieclub

Agreed.

Belladonna12 · 14/05/2021 15:52

It's true that we can't be in lockdown forever. However, we don't have to allow people to go on holiday or trust them to return them quarantine. We've seen that it doesn't work so the only thing to do is stop international travel or insist everyone who does stays in a quarantine hotel. The travel industry will have to be helped financially but it's better than the whole economy is suffering.

DelBocaVista · 14/05/2021 15:54

@RockingMyFiftiesNot

I wonder whether they will continue lockdown in Bolton? And if they do; will they extend that to the whole of Greater Manchester?
That would be ridiculous given the very low infection rates of the rest of GM.
quiteathome · 14/05/2021 15:55

I suppose it is a wait and see, the no new variants was a test though for the road map. A new variant in theory should hold things up, and they probably should delay the next stage. Although I think so many people are not so fixated on the roadmap that the dates may as well be set in stone.

NoMLMbots · 14/05/2021 15:55

@CookieClub

This is ridiculous now.

ELEVEN people have died of covid in the last 24 hours. ELEVEN. Out of 60ish million.

I work frontline, I have seen people in their 80s and 90s recover from covid, with no ill-effects. It has a 98% survival rate.

He cannot keep ruining the economy and stopping millions of people living freely, because some people might catch a virus and some people might die.
In the beginning, yes, it was new and scary and the NHS was on it's knees and over-run. But things have eased massively.

The NHS is ALWAYS over-run, it's short-staffed and underfunded.

Covid has just hilighted that the hardest working are generally amongst the lowest paid.

Boris can fuck off back to his newly refurbed flat and let the stressed out, overworked healthcare staff enjoy some of 2021 please.

This 100%
RockingMyFiftiesNot · 14/05/2021 15:55

Local lockdown seems very pointless. People just socialise in the nearest place that is not in lockdown.
I agree - but that is why when there have been past surges in and around Manchester they have locked down the whole county because it's all linked up by trams and the city centre is a potential infection hub.

RockingMyFiftiesNot · 14/05/2021 15:56

@DelBocaVista
That would be ridiculous given the very low infection rates of the rest of GM.

Couldn't agree more, but see my other response below.

Tana433 · 14/05/2021 16:00

@IrmaFayLear I wont be getting the vaccine and nobody can say anything to change my mind. I dont believe we should be locked down any longer. The people who want to take the vaccine will have it and protect themselves therefore the only person i am putting in jeopadry (if i believed it for one minute) is myself. So you do you and let me do me, im not telling you you shouldnt get a jab so dont tell me i should. Lets have the same discussion this time next year and see how things stand.

Wheresmybiscuit3 · 14/05/2021 16:01

I am waiting for normality. I just don’t see it happening any time soon. It really depresses me

Lostinacloud · 14/05/2021 16:04

It’s true @MercyBooth. I’ve just become eligible for the vaccine and was very undecided as to whether I wanted it based on my risks of becoming seriously ill with covid at my age and health status against the risks (however small) of taking the vaccine. I’ve also had mild covid and survived it with no problems or lingering effects so that was another factor to consider. However, I was leaning towards getting it just in the hope it would at least make things easier regarding everyday life and travel (despite disagreeing with the coercive nature of that trade off).

But, the other day I got so angry with the announcement about travel and how being vaccinated is not seeming to make any difference whatsoever to whether we can go overseas or not (and for me this is to see my parents for the first time in over a year) and it makes no difference to quarantine or paying for expensive pcr tests so I thought “fuck it” I’m not having it if it won’t even win me back my normal life.

I’m so angry with the about turn on vaccines being the apparent way out. Who cares about variants or high case numbers if they have no effect on hospitalisations and deaths? We all need to drop the fear and live with this virus like we do every other respiratory virus we’ve co-existed with for centuries. With the invention of the vaccines and new treatments, it is not the same threat as it was and it is not fair or sustainable to make everyone continue living like this.

Glenthebattleostrich · 14/05/2021 16:05

I have followed the rules to the letter from the start, I have had my first vaccine and am patiently awaiting my second (despite awful side effects). I have seen 3 people in my families social circle kill themselves because of the lockdowns over the last 18 months. I dont know of anyone in my families circle who have died with covid or have long covid, although I will concede it took my brother 6 weeks to fully recover.

If lockdown is extended they can go fuck off to the far side of fuck and when they get there they can climb over the fence and fuck off some more.

I am done. My 11 year old daughter is on the waiting list for counselling because she is self harming due to lockdown. My 75 year old mother in law's dementia and general mental health has massively worsened because she has spent so much time alone. She has talked about suicide and my 21 year old niece has moved in with her because we cant leave her alone (nor can we have her live with us because of my job). Speaking of my niece, she has lost her job because the restaurant she worked in has gone under as has the department store she worked for.

I'm done with it. If people want to lock down then they can stay at home. You want to wear masks, knock yourself out. Make your choices and Ill make mine and I am perfectly willing to take my chances and take responsibility for my choices.

This virus is not going to go away. Ever. It will keep mutating, just like the cold and flu viruses do. So we get on with it.

Slingsanderrors · 14/05/2021 16:06

@GingerAndTheBiscuits

Those suggesting slow vaccine uptake is driving Bolton etc, this is what the spectator had to say today:

“All eyes in the past few days have been on Bolton, the epicentre of the Indian variant in Britain, with 47 cases so far recorded there. It isn’t just the Indian B1.617.2 variant that is active there – in all, 473 new cases of Covid-19 have been recorded there in the past seven days. That equates to a rate of 164 per 100,000 and an increase of 97 per cent on the previous week. Some inner-city areas with high ethnic minority populations have recorded low take-up rates of the vaccine, but this does not appear to be the case with Bolton – by 18 April, three weeks after all over-fifties had been offered a first dose, 95 per cent of them had been inoculated.

The second hotspot of B1.617.2 is neighbouring Blackburn, with 19 cases. In Blackburn, too, there has been a surge of infections in recent days, with 150 cases, or 100.2 per 100,000, an increase of 87 per cent over the week. There, 94 per cent of the over-fifties had taken up the offer of a vaccine.

In Bedford, where there have been ten cases of B1.617.2, cases are up 88.6 per cent over the week and are running at 72.7 per 100,000. There, 95 per cent of the over-fifties have taken up the vaccine.

There are districts with far lower take-up – most notably in Central London. In Westminster, by 18 April just 67 per cent of over-fifties had had the jab. Cases have been running at just 26 per 100,000 over the past week, an increase of just 1.5 per cent over the past seven days.”

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RockingMyFiftiesNot · 14/05/2021 16:06

The people who want to take the vaccine will have it and protect themselves therefore the only person i am putting in jeopadry (if i believed it for one minute) is myself.

Unless you are asymptomatic and pass it on to someone who hasn't been vaccinated yet. Of course it is absolutely your choice whether or not you have the vaccine, but don't try to kid yourself you are only putting yourself at risk.

1forAll74 · 14/05/2021 16:06

Boris alone,does not make all the rules, his advisors all have to agree on the course of actions that have to be taken.. He has always said to be cautious about many things. He wants the best for all people, he want's people to be free now.. But he,like lots of people won't really have a clue, what might happen, when everyone gets their freedom,, travels to different allowed countries etc. Virsuses can get out of control,despite all the safety measures.. I am not a doom monger here, its kind of logical thinking really.

TickTockBitches · 14/05/2021 16:06

@JustMeAndWheatley

Portugal Surge testing NHS app showing vaccine status from Monday (if not already). telling everyone to download it if they can.
Just had a look and I can see my vaccinations on the nhs app now.
aliloandabanana · 14/05/2021 16:07

What's the point of them locking down there, given that the spread of this variant shows that people aren't sticking to the rules? All it means is that all the people who do stick to them get shafted again and everyone else who is spreading it round because they're not quarantining or keeping to their own household etc carries on doing exactly what they want, as they have been for the past 14 months.